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> HELP!! broke chopsticks in combustion chamber, anyone for chinese?
opera guy
post Dec 31 2004, 05:40 PM
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sigh,

it was suggested to me from two different sources to use a stick (wooden dowel, pencil, chopsticks...etc) to put into the sparkplug hole to try to find TDC. Needless to say, when ever i work on my car, things gets... complex.

so i got this chopstick in the sparkplug hole... turn the wheel and the chopstick started to go down.. down..good, this is going well, so i thought. then i kept turning the wheel, chopstick start to move up. IM EXCITED!! this is gonna work!!! yes!! then, snap, my chopstick broke in half. half was hanging out the sparkplug hole, the other half fell in!

is my only alternative = pulling the heads? or can i somehow "fish" out the broken chopstick?

argggg help this is a brand new rebuilt, less than 500 miles
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post Jan 3 2005, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (tracks914 @ Jan 3 2005, 01:43 PM)
Here is what I would do. I wouldn't start the engine, it might work but if it doesn't you could have a real mess on your hands. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)
Pull off the header.
Rotate the engine so that the exhaust valve is wide open.
Get a good shop vac with two hoses.
Put one hose from the discharge side of the vacuum blowing into the exhaust port.
Put the other suction side of the shop vac to the spark plug hole.
Have someone under the car swirl the hose around in different directions to create turbulance in the cylinder.
What goes in the spark plug hole should come out. It may take awhile but well worth the effort.

and most of all....................don't do it again! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

I think Doug has the best idea so far. It could be improved by squirting compressed air in the spark plug hole. Also, using a part of a nylon stocking in the end of the vacuum hose to catch the little vagrant before it disappears into the shop vac.

If that doesn't work, pull the head. Torching the piece will melt it and, when it cools, it will be harder than before. This is bad news if it gets trapped between the valve and the seat.
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opera guy   HELP!! broke chopsticks in combustion chamber   Dec 31 2004, 05:40 PM
URY914   Shop vac? Drop in a few termites? I've got a...   Dec 31 2004, 06:23 PM
Bleyseng   Aaa, I look at the flywheel notch or the fan for t...   Dec 31 2004, 06:23 PM
opera guy   this is plastic chopsticks. looks like i will hav...   Dec 31 2004, 06:27 PM
URY914   Plastic- no problem. Stick a butain torch in there...   Dec 31 2004, 06:35 PM
opera guy     Dec 31 2004, 06:52 PM
DJsRepS   Fire that muther up. Drive it at 5500 shifts aroun...   Dec 31 2004, 08:40 PM
Ray Warren   Not sure if you can see it through the spark plug ...   Dec 31 2004, 08:52 PM
trekkor   Remember the the Steve Martin bit, "Let's get ...   Dec 31 2004, 09:16 PM
Elliot Cannon   Use a magnet!! No. Wait. That won't...   Dec 31 2004, 10:06 PM
kwales   OK, Hows about chewing gum on the end of a piece ...   Dec 31 2004, 10:14 PM
Rhodes71/914   I'm sorry but I don't think I would want t...   Dec 31 2004, 10:15 PM
kwales   I've got a bunch of surgical graspers and thos...   Dec 31 2004, 10:22 PM
trekkor   How about compresed air to blast it out? Wear saf...   Dec 31 2004, 10:34 PM
bryanthompson   Fill it with something more dense than the chopsti...   Jan 1 2005, 01:03 AM
TimT     Jan 1 2005, 01:08 AM
DJsRepS   Once the motor is running the airflow only goes on...   Jan 1 2005, 06:58 AM
Steve Thacker     Jan 1 2005, 07:36 AM
opera guy   well.. 1. tried fly paper at the end of another s...   Jan 1 2005, 03:11 PM
balljoint   I still think the vacuum is your best bet. Can yo...   Jan 1 2005, 03:25 PM
DJsRepS   try the solvent test on another stick Zylene is st...   Jan 1 2005, 05:39 PM
trekkor   Be patient... DO NOT TEAR DOWN THE ENGINE OVER TH...   Jan 1 2005, 08:55 PM
rick 918-S   Dude that sux. Don't start it. You'll bend...   Jan 1 2005, 08:58 PM
LvSteveH   Get a metal coat hanger and make a custom set of t...   Jan 2 2005, 12:20 PM
cooltimes   Vacumm sounds best. Considering exactly what you a...   Jan 2 2005, 12:31 PM
bernbomb914   1. rotate the piston. to close both valves then yo...   Jan 2 2005, 12:53 PM
DJsRepS   Its Plastic! Drop another one in a glass of Zy...   Jan 3 2005, 06:04 AM
DJsRepS   Both the light and the clip would reach deep throu...   Jan 3 2005, 06:13 AM
skline   I liked the idea of the torch down in the hole and...   Jan 3 2005, 09:15 AM
larryp   I would definitely use the torch; if you did a cho...   Jan 3 2005, 09:50 AM
Marty Yeoman   And that "smudge of black ash" on the pavement was...   Jan 3 2005, 02:18 PM
Mueller   I'd pull the head before I tried to melt it wi...   Jan 3 2005, 02:27 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Now you see the reason we use a plastic soda straw...   Jan 3 2005, 02:59 PM
tracks914   Here is what I would do. I wouldn't start the ...   Jan 3 2005, 03:43 PM
sanman     Jan 3 2005, 04:57 PM
vsg914     Jan 3 2005, 06:59 PM
Carl   ...   Jan 3 2005, 07:24 PM
Mueller     Jan 3 2005, 07:29 PM
Sparky   Soooo...... Is it out yet http://ww...   Jan 3 2005, 08:25 PM
kwales   I think he needs to look in the yellow pages for "...   Jan 3 2005, 08:29 PM
9146986   <...   Jan 3 2005, 08:35 PM
tracks914     Jan 3 2005, 09:12 PM
Series9     Jan 3 2005, 09:13 PM
Maltese Falcon   best / quickest solution is Tracks914. A cool tool...   Jan 3 2005, 09:27 PM
tracks914   The doctors I know don't hang in the 914 crowd...   Jan 3 2005, 09:33 PM
mharrison   Maybe a gynecologist could get it !!! ...   Jan 3 2005, 09:56 PM
newdeal2   Turn the car upside down and shake it! Sorry...   Jan 3 2005, 10:12 PM
Carl   ...   Jan 3 2005, 10:32 PM
SGB   the engine is in the car, cylinder sideways.... T...   Jan 3 2005, 10:46 PM
bryanthompson   I can't believe you haven't gotten it out ...   Jan 3 2005, 10:54 PM
bperry   What about using compressed air pushed in from the...   Jan 4 2005, 12:58 AM
trekkor   It's pushing four days now. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Jan 5 2005, 01:12 AM
mharrison     Jan 5 2005, 01:22 PM
tracks914   One other thing I have used is a long 1/2" drive e...   Jan 5 2005, 09:04 PM
Aaron Cox   I talked with John (aka opera guy)... he has been...   Jan 5 2005, 09:25 PM
Sammy   Sigh. A little late, but here's my 2 pennies w...   Jan 5 2005, 09:32 PM
opera guy   aint married life a beach? hehehe. no time to work...   Jan 5 2005, 10:47 PM
Rhodes71/914   Sorry to here that you haven't gotten it out y...   Jan 5 2005, 10:58 PM
9146986   You might try a piece of welding wire with some 3M...   Jan 5 2005, 11:44 PM
Racer Chris   I would test a chopstick to see if it floats in wa...   Jan 6 2005, 05:58 AM
URY914   What was the name of the hooker that was caught wi...   Jan 6 2005, 06:31 AM
DJsRepS   Thanks for at least trying one of my wak ideas Zyl...   Jan 6 2005, 06:41 AM
Racer Chris   The obvious problem with using a solvent is that t...   Jan 6 2005, 08:09 AM
Bruce Allert   <...   Jan 6 2005, 10:19 AM
!   Don't let SLITS see that animation....he'l...   Jan 6 2005, 10:25 AM
DJsRepS   Nice post Rockaria and good work. Now lets see th...   Jan 6 2005, 10:48 AM
Lou W   If the chop stick does not fit, you must acquit. <...   Jan 6 2005, 10:48 AM
Rockaria     Jan 6 2005, 10:57 AM
Joe Ricard   Damn thats alot better picture than the cam lobe t...   Jan 6 2005, 11:25 AM
Rhodes71/914   Rockaria your animation is great. I have to agree...   Jan 6 2005, 11:36 AM
aircooledboy  
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E-Man   While resisting the ricer joke temptation, I submi...   Jan 6 2005, 12:37 PM
Bruce Allert   TOTALLY http://www.914world.c...   Jan 6 2005, 12:38 PM
Rockaria   <...   Feb 11 2005, 05:22 PM
DuckRyder   ...   Feb 11 2005, 05:36 PM
kwales   It's amazing what you can ingest into a cylind...   Feb 11 2005, 06:15 PM
DJsRepS   Im the one that said first fire that muther up...   Feb 17 2005, 05:05 AM
9146986   Glad to know it worked out for you without inciden...   Feb 17 2005, 08:30 AM

 

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