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I. I. R. C. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,735 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
After I made a post about my alternate location for an auxiliary oil cooler, I thought more details would be helpful.
First let me say that this was a piece of cake for the current project, as the right rear quarter panel was removed for rust repair and chassis stiffening. Due to the difficulty in properly locating the forward mounting holes, I don’t know how feasible this is for a car with the engine installed. When I put a (slightly smaller) cooler in this same area 25 years ago, I made no notes or kept any of the measurements, I just made it work, but at that time it was done with the engine out of the car. After trial and error fitting of a cardboard mockup, I picked a Mocal 34 row, 235 matrix cooler, which measures 260mm by 280mm, or roughly 10 5/16” x 11 1/8” which doesn’t include the -12AN fittings. This is what I think to be the largest cooler you could get in that area ahead of the right rear wheel. This cooler has a capacity of .75 quarts, which is .20 of a quart more than the kit BAT offers to upgrade a 911 front oil cooler. This is a case where bigger is definitely better. Since airflow in the rear quarter panels isn’t as good as the front fender , I added a 7” Spal puller fan that will be mounted directly to the oil cooler with a plastic mounting tie kit, which are very sturdy round zip tie fasteners that make it easy. The fan will be wired with a relay to a switch on the dash or an automatic inline switch (to be determined later). On my old install I tried to make the fan automatically switched, but it ran too much and the fan died. A testament to this set up is that I never knew the fan died, and oil temps never got over 220* even in the hot Tennessee summers. Since this is going to be a widebody hot-rod with flared rockers, I’m toying with the idea of incorporating a scoop in the rocker flare, but that too is undetermined. Here’s a hardware list, that doesn’t include any oil lines, thermostat, or relay wiring for the fan. 1 Mocal A34A12 34 row -12AN 235 oil cooler 2 Mocal/Setrab ABKT-235 oil cooler bracket for 235mm core 1 BAT ABKT1 cooler/fan mounting tie kit 1 M8 x 1.25 x 60mm fully threaded cap screw (13mm hex) 2 M8 x 1.25 x 50mm fully threaded cap screw (13mm hex) 12 M8 washers 8 M8 x 1.25 nylon insert nuts 1 M8 x 1.25 weld nut Even with the fender off it took more than one attempt to get it in the optimum location, which is as far forward as possible without interfering with the outer suspension console. Using the suspension console as the baseline level plane, the cooler is tilted down at the back about 5* give or take a degree. ![]() Just for reference Here's what the cooler looks like mounted. It's pretty big. ![]() I wanted to make sure the cooler could be installed and removed with the fender on, I made sure there was no interference. I had the fender on and off several times during the test fitting process. With the fender off it was easy to use the bracket as a reference where to mark and drill the 5/16” front mounting holes, which are 70mm apart. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: 18-October 11 From: CA Member No.: 13,687 Region Association: None ![]() |
This is a 73 911 RS cooler I installed in the rear trailing part of the LR qtr.
Great for a street car, no running lines up front. It fits so well its almost like it was meant for that application, sadly they are uber expensive now. ![]() |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,435 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
This is a 73 911 RS cooler I installed in the rear trailing part of the LR qtr. Great for a street car, no running lines up front. It fits so well its almost like it was meant for that application, sadly they are uber expensive now. ![]() What a great idea, running a 911 loop cooler in the rear fender of a 914. Not only no lines going all the ways to the front, but front trunk and spare tire fully preserved. And the late Bruce Anderson was a big fan of the loop-style coolers. If someone needed to, could this be reversed and run another one in the RH rear fender? I wonder if this is an idea for @mb911 ? |
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 41,707 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
What a great idea, running a 911 loop cooler in the rear fender of a 914. Not only no lines going all the ways to the front, but front trunk and spare tire fully preserved. And the late Bruce Anderson was a big fan of the loop-style coolers. If someone needed to, could this be reversed and run another one in the RH rear fender? Maybe i'm the only one confused here but how exactly does that clear the rear tires? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,435 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Maybe i'm the only one confused here but how exactly does that clear the rear tires? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Fair question, though it looks like the interference points are above the tire? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) The tightest spot in the rear fenders is often between the inner fender and the tire sidewall? Another photo or two might be illuminating, as this is a pretty extreme angle. On the other hand, could a for-purpose loop cooler for the 914's rear fender extend the hard lines forward, over the top of the tire / close to the top of the inner fender, so that the fittings for the rubber lines are in front of the tires, whether high or low? Would extend the cooling area and shorten the rubber line runs… |
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