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B3owulf
post Jun 13 2022, 07:47 PM
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Hello all, first post here. Been a member for a while but could not post for some reason. Its working now so here goes!

I have a 1973 I bought as a rolling chassis and pile of parts. It has a 1.7 engine and has been 5-lug converted. Been working on and off for about 6 months and having a lot of fun. So far have done a bit of rust repair, sent it off for paint, and started re-assembling. Pictures are below, also looking for a bit of advice.

About to put it on hold for about nine months (Im in the US Army and will be deploying) and plan on ordering engine parts so I can hopefully get it running on post deployment leave. which means I need to decide which course of action to take:

COA 1 - Approximately $1,000-$1200. Get the current 1.7 running and install as is - need to get the webers rebuilt or replaced, need ignition system, some fuel system components and a flywheel. Issue being 70hp will be way to slow.

COA 2 - Approximately $4000-$5,000. Build a larger four cylinder (2.2L-2.4L) shooting for 130-140 hp and have fun. Seems like a good possibility and is in the lead so far but I am concerned about the quality of the parts out there. Almost everything I find seems to be made in china.

COA 3 - Approximately $10000 (?) try doing a 6 cylinder swap. This is what I WANT to do but not sure how realistic $10k is to get it done. Advantage being a good running sorted out 6 cylinder will be worth a lot more and with 9 months of tax free income it is a great time to do it (maybe now or never type of thing)

Anyway looking for some advice from the experts and any input you might have. Thanks!

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iankarr
post Jun 13 2022, 10:12 PM
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Great looking car! Is it Ravenna Green? Awesome that you're working on it with your son.

I'd put COA 1.5 in the mix...build a 2056 with a hot cam for 5-7K, depending on what you're doing for heads. Lots of proven combinations out there.

Whichever way you decide to go, this community will be here to help. Thanks so much for your service.
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post Jun 14 2022, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(iankarr @ Jun 14 2022, 12:12 AM) *

Great looking car! Is it Ravenna Green? Awesome that you're working on it with your son.

I'd put COA 1.5 in the mix...build a 2056 with a hot cam for 5-7K, depending on what you're doing for heads. Lots of proven combinations out there.

Whichever way you decide to go, this community will be here to help. Thanks so much for your service.


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You are way, way off on the COA 3 - /6 option. By at least double if not triple unless you already have a running six sitting in your garage. I currently have a 2.4L six that is a work in progress and I easily have $9K in machining the case, rebuilding the heads, resizing the rods, crankshaft machining. OEM main bearings are about $850 alone! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif)

I'll also add that COA 1 -- 76 HP isn't too slow. 914's will never be fast cars in a straight line by modern standards. Any recent Tesla is going to put even a LS motor swapped 914 to shame from 0-60 mph.

What 914's do exceptionally well is carry speed though corners. They are built for handling, not straight line acceleration. COA 1 is great for learning how to drive, carry speed though the corners, and to use momentum to your advantage.

COA - 2 to build an engine with the HP you're wanting, with any semblance of durability, you'll need a set of LN Engineering Nickies. Those will cost $4K just for the pistons and cylinders. You'll also need a decent set of Heads. When I bought a set from Len at HAM a few years ago that was $1700 or so. . . . . the costs just keep adding up. Again, off by at least double by the time you include cam, machine work, external oil cooler, etc.

Yeah -- Ian has it right. Build a 2056 - well documented, well proven, easy 100HP motor with good reliability. Shivers is also giving you another good option. My 1st engine rebuild was from a 1.7L as a 1911 with 96's, decent cam, Weber's . . . plenty of fun, and I accumulated plenty of speeding tickets.

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B3owulf   Member intro/pictures/Questions!   Jun 13 2022, 07:47 PM
mmichalik   :wttc:   Jun 13 2022, 08:00 PM
Montreal914   :wttc: Very nice looking roller! I am worrie...   Jun 13 2022, 08:06 PM
Freezin 914   :wttc:   Jun 13 2022, 08:35 PM
iankarr   Great looking car! Is it Ravenna Green? Aweso...   Jun 13 2022, 10:12 PM
porschetub   Great looking car! Is it Ravenna Green? Awes...   Jun 13 2022, 11:38 PM
Superhawk996   Great looking car! Is it Ravenna Green? Awes...   Jun 14 2022, 06:28 AM
barefoot   Great looking car! Is it Ravenna Green? Awes...   Jun 15 2022, 09:08 AM
TRS63   Welcome here and a nice shell is a great start...   Jun 13 2022, 10:36 PM
SirAndy   Get the 1.7L cleaned up and running and drive it f...   Jun 13 2022, 11:07 PM
Root_Werks   Get the 1.7L cleaned up and running and drive it ...   Jun 14 2022, 08:45 AM
914 RZ-1   Get the 1.7L cleaned up and running and drive it ...   Jun 15 2022, 05:19 PM
Dave_Darling   Stock spec for the 1.7 is 80 HP on the DIN scale, ...   Jun 14 2022, 02:58 AM
jaredmcginness   Welcome! I love that Ravenna Green! Get it...   Jun 14 2022, 05:25 AM
B3owulf   Thanks for the replies! It is Revena Green; le...   Jun 14 2022, 05:28 AM
BeatNavy   I agree with Andy. Put some miles on the 1.7L bef...   Jun 14 2022, 05:38 AM
mb911   @B3owulf I agree with getting the 1.7 running jus...   Jun 14 2022, 06:27 AM
B3owulf   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jun 14 2022, 11:13 AM
mb911   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?...   Jun 15 2022, 05:48 AM
Shivers   Just my opinion. If the bottom end feels good enou...   Jun 14 2022, 06:28 AM
Cairo94507   @B3owulf - :wttc: Thank you for your service. ...   Jun 14 2022, 06:28 AM
PanelBilly   You need to go for a drive in a 1.7 and see just h...   Jun 14 2022, 07:29 AM
Jett   I have a stock 73 1.7 and have a smile every time ...   Jun 14 2022, 08:30 AM
VaccaRabite   I've always like phone dials on a 914. Zach   Jun 14 2022, 09:24 AM
friethmiller   I took my 1.8L to a 2375. Long story short, it wa...   Jun 14 2022, 09:32 AM
mlindner   Shivers, thirty years ago I did what you are doing...   Jun 14 2022, 10:10 AM
Al Meredith   don't know when you are being deployed but if ...   Jun 14 2022, 11:40 AM
tygaboy   I didn't read every reply but I'm with the...   Jun 14 2022, 12:08 PM
bkrantz   Congrats on your progress so far, and keep enjoyin...   Jun 14 2022, 08:22 PM
slowrodent   Good luck with the build... I think you're goi...   Jun 15 2022, 09:28 AM
B3owulf   Good luck with the build... I think you're go...   Jun 15 2022, 06:43 PM
MM1   :wttc: and thank you for your service. Andy nail...   Jun 16 2022, 02:28 AM


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