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ILM914
post Oct 24 2022, 09:51 AM
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Hi folks a 914"expert said carbs will burn the valves on a 914 and not run well. Is this true? is the fuel economy worse when using duel carbs? Would you run orig fuel injection on a 2.0 or carbs thank you, Joe
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post Oct 25 2022, 08:54 PM
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On the topic of fuel injection, my son ran across the Bendix Electrojector during some of his automotive searching. Amazing stuff! Searching here, looks like it has been discussed already, but thought worth mentioning in case anyone missed it. The Bendix Electrojector looks like the first attempt at electronic fuel injection. A failed attempt in the late 50s on a few AMC and Chrysler cars, its patents were purchased by Bosch and evolved into the D-Jetronic system! I never would have believed it.

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post Oct 26 2022, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE(lesorubcheek @ Oct 25 2022, 08:54 PM) *

On the topic of fuel injection, my son ran across the Bendix Electrojector during some of his automotive searching. Amazing stuff! Searching here, looks like it has been discussed already, but thought worth mentioning in case anyone missed it. The Bendix Electrojector looks like the first attempt at electronic fuel injection. A failed attempt in the late 50s on a few AMC and Chrysler cars, its patents were purchased by Bosch and evolved into the D-Jetronic system! I never would have believed it.

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d jet - born in the USA.
i think chicago to be precise?

it did not exactly fail, the bendix system. it just kind of faltered.

and from stumbling well....the idea could basically plug into the tail end of the whole post world war 2 marshall plan type idea.
the germans were like the japanese and just folded into the american vision of the world and were on the look out. and not on the look out for the european vision of the world that had really screwed things up in the first half of the 20th C.

those germans just plain dedicated themselves to sorting out the transistors or diodes,
whatever it was that could not take the engine bay heat. thats pretty much all they did to make the bendix system work.

but L jet is their work of genius. thats where the krauts went....."there has to be a better way". and its typically german. reduced. minimalist and modernist.
just like kraftwerk music. and thats around the same time!!!
L jet is to cars what mies van der rohe was to architecture. and what car got L jet first (or a close second to be more accurate)?

.........and mies ended up in chicago!

i love the USA. must get back there before i kick the bucket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

bendix electrojet is kind of like a reverse moon shot technological exchange?
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Oct 26 2022, 03:23 AM) *

QUOTE(lesorubcheek @ Oct 25 2022, 08:54 PM) *

On the topic of fuel injection, my son ran across the Bendix Electrojector during some of his automotive searching. Amazing stuff! Searching here, looks like it has been discussed already, but thought worth mentioning in case anyone missed it. The Bendix Electrojector looks like the first attempt at electronic fuel injection. A failed attempt in the late 50s on a few AMC and Chrysler cars, its patents were purchased by Bosch and evolved into the D-Jetronic system! I never would have believed it.

Dan


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d jet - born in the USA.
i think chicago to be precise?

it did not exactly fail, the bendix system. it just kind of faltered.

and from stumbling well....the idea could basically plug into the tail end of the whole post world war 2 marshall plan type idea.
the germans were like the japanese and just folded into the american vision of the world and were on the look out. and not on the look out for the european vision of the world that had really screwed things up in the first half of the 20th C.

those germans just plain dedicated themselves to sorting out the transistors or diodes,
whatever it was that could not take the engine bay heat. thats pretty much all they did to make the bendix system work.

but L jet is their work of genius. thats where the krauts went....."there has to be a better way". and its typically german. reduced. minimalist and modernist.
just like kraftwerk music. and thats around the same time!!!
L jet is to cars what mies van der rohe was to architecture. and what car got L jet first (or a close second to be more accurate)?

.........and mies ended up in chicago!

i love the USA. must get back there before i kick the bucket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

bendix electrojet is kind of like a reverse moon shot technological exchange?

Wonkipop, thanks for that great information. Mark
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ILM914   Carbs or Fuel injection ?   Oct 24 2022, 09:51 AM
914Sixer   No carbs will not burn valves. Fuel economy is wo...   Oct 24 2022, 10:00 AM
fiacra   No carbs will not burn valves. Fuel economy is w...   Oct 24 2022, 10:13 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I second the reply. Carbs will NOT burn the valves...   Oct 24 2022, 10:05 AM
GregAmy   20 years ago the world was generally perplexed by ...   Oct 24 2022, 10:08 AM
TheCabinetmaker   20 years ago the world was generally perplexed by...   Oct 24 2022, 10:37 AM
Root_Werks   Some threads on the subject: http://www.914world....   Oct 24 2022, 10:41 AM
Shivers   I've been running carbs since 83'. No burn...   Oct 24 2022, 10:44 AM
Jack Standz   Hi folks a 914"expert said carbs will burn t...   Oct 24 2022, 10:55 AM
lesorubcheek   Sorry, but FI isn't always best for a 914...   Oct 24 2022, 11:41 AM
Lockwodo   I've had my '74 2.0 for almost a year now....   Oct 24 2022, 10:57 AM
NARP74   The decision was made for me when I bought my firs...   Oct 24 2022, 11:15 AM
VaccaRabite   Carbs have been run on 914s for decades. You can ...   Oct 24 2022, 11:49 AM
mlindner   Ran dual Webers on my old 1.8 with a cam, always r...   Oct 24 2022, 11:59 AM
JamesJ   I have one of each. My carb'd car has perform...   Oct 24 2022, 12:10 PM
ILM914   Thank you guys Much appreciated   Oct 24 2022, 03:30 PM
mb911   Can’t wait to put fuel injection on my -6 but it...   Oct 24 2022, 03:47 PM
ClayPerrine   The 911 engine used in the 914-6 was designed to u...   Oct 24 2022, 03:58 PM
Rand   I don't know if there is a more highly-debated...   Oct 24 2022, 05:05 PM
bbrock   My advice is to forget you ever heard the word ...   Oct 24 2022, 06:14 PM
JamesM   2. no altitude adjustment - I live where a day...   Oct 25 2022, 01:03 PM
Jack Standz   Yes, modern FI is better compared to the 914's...   Oct 25 2022, 07:49 AM
rgolia   I have 75k miles with FI and 75k miles with carbs ...   Oct 25 2022, 08:18 AM
Mikey914   But Carbs sound cooler. :stir:   Oct 25 2022, 08:19 AM
Jack Standz   A Fuel injected LS motor in a 914 sounds cooler. ...   Oct 25 2022, 08:33 AM
930cabman   A Fuel injected LS motor in a 914 sounds cooler. ...   Oct 25 2022, 01:18 PM
Rand   It is a dumb argument that baffles me that it is s...   Oct 25 2022, 02:59 PM
930cabman   It is a dumb argument that baffles me that it is ...   Oct 25 2022, 05:02 PM
Rand   is it kids still asking this?   Oct 25 2022, 03:01 PM
wonkipop   its :D how the circle turns. back in 89 when i b...   Oct 25 2022, 03:48 PM
bbrock   George mentioned this earlier but even 50 year old...   Oct 25 2022, 07:11 PM
lesorubcheek   On the topic of fuel injection, my son ran across ...   Oct 25 2022, 08:54 PM
wonkipop   On the topic of fuel injection, my son ran across...   Oct 26 2022, 02:23 AM
mlindner   On the topic of fuel injection, my son ran acros...   Oct 26 2022, 04:21 AM
burton73   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBK_CoVb1MI S...   Oct 25 2022, 09:04 PM
sithot   [b]I'll do whatever I can to keep the FI on mi...   Oct 27 2022, 06:13 AM
930cabman   [u][b]I'll do whatever I can to keep the FI o...   Oct 27 2022, 04:52 PM


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