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> 914 Windshield inside OEM Glass Sticker logo?, Anyone making these OEM Windshield Mfg. Stickers
TJB/914
post Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
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Looking for help if anyone makes these OEM Windshield Sticker's?
Are they different for every model year?
Many years ago while restoring my 914 I used a solvent to clean up the windshield glass & destroyed the letters. I would like one for my OEM original windshield (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
This is off as recent 1976 in a local shop for repairs in this photo.
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post Jan 11 2023, 05:56 PM
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I reviewed that page too the other day and have the same issues/questions. That webpage was developed based on english language versions of printed Euro brochures by model year which included the optional equipment offerings for that year, price lists that used those same words on the webpage to describe the item and pricing.

The description wording is quirky and thet M568 item is listed 2x. Id est quod est.

I dont have the reference brochures anymore or cannot seem find them easily.
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post Jan 11 2023, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jan 11 2023, 05:56 PM) *

I reviewed that page too the other day and have the same issues/questions. That webpage was developed based on english language versions of printed Euro brochures by model year which included the optional equipment offerings for that year, price lists that used those same words on the webpage to describe the item and pricing.

The description wording is quirky and thet M568 item is listed 2x. Id est quod est.

I dont have the reference brochures anymore or cannot seem find them easily.


doesn't matter i think because its priceless information good enough to crack the PET page Jeff.

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3 windscreens with same part # and only 2 for USA but specific about which models.

M 089 is the first one on your list. its got to be the 6s and the 2.0s got the green sigla screen (SGG) as standard. its not really tinted. we think of it as tinted but its just darker green glass.

the standard clear glass screen is not an option so never appears on M list.
is the second one on the PET list with the same part #.
could be either a sigla clear (S) or k-klass clear (F/F). standard on all smaller 4s.
agrees with PET description.

third one with same part number is toughened. we have never seen one.
never be on a USA car. (and if 914s had ever been sold in AUS, then AUS would have been on the exclusion list too). not sure what brand. you would have to sight one to ever find out.

fourth one with the different part # described specifically as heat absorbing glass is the IRA screens we are seeing. that is heat absorbing glass. by kinonglas.
be either IRA/S or IRA/F or FIRA/F depending on year.
thats the screen you could option up for any car in any year.
there is a 6 with one on this thread back at page 2 or so.


@TJB/914 asked a good question i think.
because if you were doing a resto you wanted to be accurate, you would never fit a "clear" screen to a 2.0 or a 6 if you were after accuracy. they never had them by the looks of things. probably if you are doing a 6 and you wanted to be right on the money (and they are worth enough these days) you would be doing the same thing as the 911 guys and going after one of those green sigla screens.
so if you are going to make a stencil and you can bothered going to all that trouble you may as well get it right rather than fake history and getting it completely wrong.

or just as legitimately, don't even worry about it and just keep improving the car.

PS to clarify what i mean by a "clear" screen.
what americans think of as tinted is not the same as the germans.
they did not really call it tinted in technical terms - like for the PET.
a green sigla screen is clear for the sake of PET but described as tinted in options.
a less coloured sigla or kinon is clear for the sake of PET also.

and a heat absorbing screen isn't really tinted either but its described that way in options list. they don't seem to use the technical terms for the showroom option descriptions.

hence you get confusion. and there appears to be two different so called tinted types.
but whats going on is that the 6s and 2.0s are getting those classic sigla green screens as standard equipment in my humble opinion. but the lower down the food chain small 4s are getting the "ungreen" screens as standard. and its being described in the PET that way. and if you ticked a box for tinted in the USA in those later years you likely got upscaled to the IRA screen.

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TJB/914   914 Windshield inside OEM Glass Sticker logo?   Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
SteveL   Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker   Jan 5 2023, 03:19 PM
TJB/914   Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker Stev...   Jan 5 2023, 03:32 PM
JeffBowlsby   ^^^agree. Not a sticker.   Jan 5 2023, 03:24 PM
rick 918-S   I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the gl...   Jan 5 2023, 03:28 PM
TJB/914   I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g...   Jan 5 2023, 03:36 PM
wonkipop   I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the ...   Jan 5 2023, 06:11 PM
TJB/914   I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g...   Jan 5 2023, 03:38 PM
vitamin914   I was a tooling engineer at PPG in the late 80s. ...   Jan 5 2023, 04:06 PM
JeffBowlsby   Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date co...   Jan 5 2023, 04:41 PM
wonkipop   Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c...   Jan 5 2023, 07:10 PM
vitamin914   Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c...   Jan 6 2023, 08:02 AM
wonkipop   ok - did some googling as i am always curious. ki...   Jan 5 2023, 06:53 PM
Mikey914   It's like a tempering bug. It's a frit sta...   Jan 5 2023, 07:11 PM
TJB/914   Interesting 914 factory information. I am cleanin...   Jan 5 2023, 07:18 PM
wonkipop   Interesting 914 factory information. I am cleani...   Jan 5 2023, 07:33 PM
JeffBowlsby   The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo.   Jan 5 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop   The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo. just to...   Jan 5 2023, 09:04 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby . i have a feeling (hunch) but could...   Jan 5 2023, 09:21 PM
wonkipop   here is how you tell who made the windscreen. its ...   Jan 5 2023, 11:48 PM
vitamin914   the weird logo in the sudglas screen is not a...   Jan 6 2023, 06:20 AM
wonkipop   amusing bonus digging around on kraut glass. its r...   Jan 6 2023, 12:49 AM
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scott_in_nh   Thanks! It makes sense that the year is 1990 a...   Jan 6 2023, 11:50 AM
JeffBowlsby   What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted ...   Jan 6 2023, 12:03 PM
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wonkipop   a titbit at the end for the front badge conscious....   Jan 10 2023, 06:51 PM
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SirAndy   How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)? Kai-...   Jan 10 2023, 08:51 PM
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