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| Type 47 |
 Mar 15 2023, 03:59 PM
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so we put the original 62k engine back in that had not had the distributor removed. Adjusted the valves (again after we put about 10 miles on it) we rebuilt the Webbers and it fired up. We did some timing and tweaking on the carbs.
It ran OK but a little shy of perfect. I replaced the wires and it seemed to improve it but idled a little high around 1,200. My son came over to work on it the next day, but I wasn't home. All of a sudden, it won't even run. we swapped distributers (both 009's) with the parts car, then swapped points (adjusted to 0.016). no improvement. tested spark to all four cylinders. I seems like it's really out of timing but we didn't change it much. (except for the fact that we took the distributor out) my son says we have spark, too much fuel, and not enough air. What do we do next?????  |
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| nditiz1 |
Mar 15 2023, 05:54 PM
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If the swapped in distro is a known working entity then by all means leave it, but it's adding another mysterious part. I always go back to last known since nothing else was supposedly changed from when it was working last.
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| Type 47 |
Mar 15 2023, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Mar 15 2023, 03:54 PM)  If the swapped in distro is a known working entity then by all means leave it, but it's adding another mysterious part. I always go back to last known since nothing else was supposedly changed from when it was working last. Yes, we put everything back to where it was before. |
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| Superhawk996 |
Mar 15 2023, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(Type 47 @ Mar 15 2023, 06:57 PM) QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Mar 15 2023, 03:54 PM) If the swapped in distro is a known working entity then by all means leave it, but it's adding another mysterious part. I always go back to last known since nothing else was supposedly changed from when it was working last. Yes, we put everything back to where it was before. I don’t fully understand what “back where it was before” means to you. I’ll reiterate - need to set the static timing. Without engine running based on the exact moment the points open using a multimeter to know when the points open. Without that set - you’re just guessing that the timing is where it belongs in order to start properly. |
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Type 47 What went wrong? Mar 15 2023, 03:59 PM
Superhawk996
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with t... Mar 15 2023, 04:15 PM
Root_Werks
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with ... Mar 15 2023, 04:20 PM
Type 47
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3065291' date='M... Mar 15 2023, 04:28 PM Superhawk996
So, if distributor, points were working properl... Mar 15 2023, 04:36 PM Type 47
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with ... Mar 15 2023, 04:21 PM Superhawk996 Using the parts shotgun approach to troubleshoot h... Mar 15 2023, 04:33 PM Type 47
Do you see the accelerator pump shooting fuel? ... Mar 15 2023, 05:54 PM 930cabman Is there compression? Mar 15 2023, 04:38 PM Superhawk996
Is there compression?
:D
I ASSUMED . . . Good... Mar 15 2023, 04:41 PM nditiz1 I would put the old distro back in and make sure t... Mar 15 2023, 05:02 PM Superhawk996
I would put the old distro back in and make sure ... Mar 15 2023, 05:17 PM Type 47
I would put the old distro back in and make sure ... Mar 15 2023, 05:56 PM 930cabman Is a cam lobe wiped out? Known history is inconclu... Mar 15 2023, 05:02 PM Aerostatwv Sounds like a bad condenser to me. Mar 15 2023, 05:21 PM Superhawk996
Sounds like a bad condenser to me.
If it’s spa... Mar 15 2023, 05:32 PM Rand
Sounds like a bad condenser to me.
I'd be in... Mar 21 2023, 07:04 PM Type 47
[quote name='Type 47' post='3065346' date='Mar 15... Mar 15 2023, 09:49 PM bossboy302
Verify actual TDC but popping off 1/2 valve cover... Mar 15 2023, 06:50 PM Type 47
Verify actual TDC but popping off 1/2 valve cove... Mar 15 2023, 09:47 PM ChrisFoley
thanks, we understand. Can't tell you how m... Mar 20 2023, 04:18 AM bossboy302
thanks, we understand. Can't tell you how ... Mar 20 2023, 12:07 PM Gatornapper Best thing I've ever seen on setting static ti... Mar 15 2023, 07:27 PM Superhawk996 What is the static timing set at? Should be about... Mar 15 2023, 10:22 PM Dustin914
What is the static timing set at? Should be abou... Mar 20 2023, 04:54 PM brant no one mentioned the 009
it won't be your lac... Mar 16 2023, 10:58 AM Root_Werks Make sure to post the solution when you do figure ... Mar 17 2023, 02:11 PM Type 47
Make sure to post the solution when you do figure... Mar 18 2023, 07:03 PM ChrisFoley
not sure why plug wire #1 is so tight?
Switch... Mar 19 2023, 03:27 AM 930cabman
[quote name='Root_Werks' post='3065796' date='Mar... Mar 19 2023, 05:46 AM Type 47
[quote name='Root_Werks' post='3065796' date='Ma... Mar 19 2023, 04:22 PM lolkema I would start by making 100% sure the distributor ... Mar 18 2023, 06:17 PM second wind I have to share....my '73 2.0 had "spark... Mar 19 2023, 01:26 AM nditiz1 This seems like a very drastic approach. I don... Mar 19 2023, 06:14 PM Type 47
This seems like a very drastic approach. I don... Mar 20 2023, 12:48 PM Superhawk996
. . . is like "what's a carburetor?... Mar 20 2023, 12:59 PM Dave_Darling That distributor does not look to be in the right ... Mar 19 2023, 07:51 PM bobboinski Distributor cap looks to be wired wrong.
Or maybe ... Mar 19 2023, 09:02 PM VaccaRabite Your dizzy is all sorts of awkward in that picture... Mar 19 2023, 09:13 PM 930cabman Back in the day it was difficult to find (and keep... Mar 20 2023, 04:30 PM ChrisFoley with a timing light while the engine is running. Mar 20 2023, 06:35 PM Superhawk996
with a timing light while the engine is running.
... Mar 20 2023, 07:24 PM Type 47
with a timing light while the engine is running.
... Mar 20 2023, 08:23 PM Superhawk996
with a timing light while the engine is running.... Mar 20 2023, 08:29 PM Superhawk996 Now that the carbs have been removed - you’re go... Mar 20 2023, 08:35 PM Type 47
Now that the carbs have been removed - you’re g... Mar 20 2023, 09:18 PM Type 47 Could a valve be stuck and causing chaos? then no... Mar 20 2023, 09:40 PM Superhawk996
Could a valve be stuck and causing chaos? then n... Mar 20 2023, 09:55 PM Dave_Darling Distributor. Check that distributor. Do not f**k... Mar 20 2023, 09:58 PM Superhawk996
Distributor. Check that distributor. Do not f**... Mar 20 2023, 10:04 PM Type 47
Distributor. Check that distributor. Do not f**... Mar 21 2023, 09:15 AM Superhawk996 Sorry - not trying to over simplify
However tuni... Mar 20 2023, 10:02 PM Type 47
Sorry - not trying to over simplify
However tun... Mar 21 2023, 09:26 AM brant Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Havi... Mar 21 2023, 07:48 AM Type 47
Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Hav... Mar 21 2023, 09:16 AM brant
Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Ha... Mar 21 2023, 09:58 AM nditiz1 If the car pops stutters backfires at IDLE here ar... Mar 21 2023, 09:29 AM Type 47
Idle circuit is dirty - are the carbs clean? Ha... Mar 21 2023, 02:56 PM technicalninja
with a timing light while the engine is running.... Mar 21 2023, 10:12 AM technicalninja
Timing could be off, but I believe you ran it u... Mar 21 2023, 10:17 AM nditiz1 Yes please retract your post :D
Just so we are c... Mar 21 2023, 10:18 AM technicalninja Yep, I'm sorry I may have added to the confusi... Mar 21 2023, 10:39 AM Superhawk996
How did Porsche expect technicians to be able to ... Mar 21 2023, 11:16 AM Type 47
[quote name='technicalninja' post='3066759' date=... Mar 21 2023, 02:11 PM ClayPerrine Just so you know, the 009 is a terrible distributo... Mar 21 2023, 10:48 AM Type 47
Just so you know, the 009 is a terrible distribut... Mar 21 2023, 03:00 PM nditiz1 009 should have no problem getting to the base. I... Mar 21 2023, 11:28 AM technicalninja
[quote name='technicalninja' post='3066759' date=... Mar 21 2023, 12:08 PM cgnj Hi,
You never said what fixed your no start proble... Mar 21 2023, 01:29 PM Type 47
Hi,
You never said what fixed your no start probl... Mar 21 2023, 01:53 PM technicalninja Just looked at the link provided for syncing carbs... Mar 21 2023, 02:26 PM nditiz1 There are definitely different levels of cleaning.... Mar 21 2023, 06:37 PM Type 47
There are definitely different levels of cleaning... Mar 21 2023, 08:13 PM ChrisFoley That red line on your impeller is the 27 degree ma... Mar 22 2023, 05:23 AM bossboy302 TYPE 47: you never have explained how you got from... Mar 22 2023, 11:40 AM Type 47
TYPE 47: you never have explained how you got fro... Mar 22 2023, 02:48 PM |
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