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> Rear chassis flex. What do you think?, Discovery prepping for Road America next week
vintage914racer
post Jul 7 2023, 08:34 PM
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Paranoia has set in as I'm nut and bolting the 914 before Road America next week. I'm hoping I can some second opinions.

A little background. My 914 has been a track car for nearly the entirely of it's life. She's been used and abused, but generally has been a reliable steed. Over the years chassis reinforcement and modifications have been made. Notably, the RR (pass) rear suspension console was replaced after the original tore (which is seemingly pretty normal).

What I'm noticing. After getting my car up on stands and prepping/inspecting for the next event I noticed a small amount of tire wear on my inner driver's left fender. I initially attributed it to bumping up to wider tires last Fall (225 Hoosiers vs. 205 Kumhos), but started investigating further to make sure there wasn't something else upstream.

When I have the car on jack stands and put pressure on the LR wheel, there's what I consider quite a bit of flex at the outer A-arm mount and forward into the rear long. You can see it in the attached video. As a point of comparison, when I do the same on the RR/passenger rear wheel there is some flex, but not as much. It should be noted that I had the inner suspension console replaced on the passenger side a few years ago after the old one tore, so in theory it should be stronger. 

The LR doesn't show any signs of tearing. It's also reinforced with stress bars on the outside and inside. 

Left Rear Flex Video (the side I'm worried about): https://youtu.be/NZDbDg22dFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZDbDg22dFI


Right Rear Flex Video (the "control" if you will): https://youtu.be/bQMBecKZ6Yc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQMBecKZ6Yc



My questions are as follows:

1) How much flex is normal? Is this outside what is normal?

2) My flex test doesn't necessarily translate to how torsion is applied to the chassis when the car is on the ground, so am I worrying about something that isn't relevant? Wouldn't the applicable stress while driving get suppressed in part by the rear shock?

3) Would you be concerned about running the car?

Mid-term I'm going to get the LR console replaced for peace of mind, get the reinforcements cleaned up and tidy. The question is, should I forego my race and get it repaired before running.
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post Jul 8 2023, 07:10 AM
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It is very hard to tell what is loose from the video but it looks like the outer suspension mount is moving? you need to examine the bottom of the longitudinal in that area for cracks or seam separation. I would say any lateral movement will make the cars handling unpredictable.
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QUOTE(gms @ Jul 8 2023, 05:10 AM) *

It is very hard to tell what is loose from the video but it looks like the outer suspension mount is moving? you need to examine the bottom of the longitudinal in that area for cracks or seam separation. I would say any lateral movement will make the cars handling unpredictable.


I agree. Unfortunately I don’t see anything that’s glaring when I’ve inspected it.
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vintage914racer   Rear chassis flex. What do you think?   Jul 7 2023, 08:34 PM
gms   It is very hard to tell what is loose from the vid...   Jul 8 2023, 07:10 AM
vintage914racer   It is very hard to tell what is loose from the vi...   Jul 8 2023, 07:37 AM
brant   thats scary looking.. really unpredictable rear s...   Jul 8 2023, 07:58 AM
vintage914racer   thats scary looking.. really unpredictable rear ...   Jul 8 2023, 08:23 AM
rick 918-S   Definately metal fatigue. Drop the suspension. I a...   Jul 8 2023, 10:18 AM
SirAndy   Definately metal fatigue. :agree: That's ...   Jul 8 2023, 10:28 AM
Bullethead   :agree: That's a scary amount of movement... f...   Jul 8 2023, 11:29 AM
vintage914racer   Pulling the trailing arm tomorrow and investigatin...   Jul 8 2023, 01:06 PM
rick 918-S   I'm heading down to see if I can assist Ben. T...   Jul 8 2023, 07:17 PM
Krieger   That looks scary to drive! I can't imagin...   Jul 9 2023, 08:39 AM
vintage914racer   A huge thank you to Rick (rick918-s) for coming do...   Jul 9 2023, 06:38 PM
SirAndy   Following an afternoon of drilling, temporarily fa...   Jul 9 2023, 09:58 PM
vintage914racer   RE: Rear chassis flex. What do you think?   Jul 9 2023, 06:38 PM
Bullethead   :trophy: Great job! :trophy:   Jul 9 2023, 06:54 PM
SirAndy   :trophy: Great job! :trophy: :agree: :beer...   Jul 9 2023, 09:55 PM
infraredcalvin   :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: That is so awesome...   Jul 9 2023, 09:55 PM
rick 918-S   It was a nice day. When I arrived the suspension w...   Jul 10 2023, 04:20 AM
infraredcalvin   It was a nice day. When I arrived the suspension ...   Jul 12 2023, 09:28 PM
gms   Great work Ben & Rick! See you at Road Ame...   Jul 10 2023, 09:14 AM
vintage914racer   Great work Ben & Rick! See you at Road Am...   Jul 10 2023, 02:17 PM
slivel   Is this a crack?   Jul 10 2023, 01:04 PM
vintage914racer   Is this a crack? That's not a crack. That...   Jul 11 2023, 08:11 PM
gms   Is this a crack? No that is the lower edge of ...   Jul 12 2023, 01:40 PM
sixaddict   This thread helped a lot as have similar issues â€...   Jul 10 2023, 07:14 PM
vintage914racer   Following Rick's miraculous short notice repai...   Jul 11 2023, 08:16 PM
vintage914racer   Quick update after attending the WeatherTech Inter...   Jul 19 2023, 10:31 AM
SirAndy   Quick update after attending the WeatherTech Inte...   Jul 21 2023, 08:41 PM
Charles Freeborn   Quick update after attending the WeatherTech Inte...   Jul 22 2023, 09:36 AM
brant   That is awesome Brant   Jul 20 2023, 08:28 AM
blabla914   glad to hear you got it fixed and were able to get...   Sep 3 2023, 07:06 PM


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