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> Bus 4 spd trans, Anybody done this
jwalters
post Jan 21 2005, 06:38 PM
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Thought of an interesting topic---has anybody put a beefed up bus or t1 trans in the teener----

I loved the gear spacing on my old superbug--and first gear for my car,,well,,,sucks ass--and second is too tall for a good start off--

Would rather spend 650 bucks on a pro-streeter WITH a rhino case and super diff than thousands upgrading my 901--

Sand rail mid engine cable shifter should be able to be adapted rather easily and the trans install is a non-event...

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post Jan 22 2005, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (jwalters @ Jan 22 2005, 12:40 AM)
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) The true net ratio of any trans is 1:1-however, none are made to this standard, therre would be no torque mulitplication-I believe you are referring to the first gear ratio in the tranny minus the final drive, if not, clarify.

Jwalters,

I guess I didn't make myself clear, so let me give it another shot. What I refer to as net, is the transmission gear ratio (any gear) multiplied by the R&P ratio. When you do this, it is much easier to compare the transmission ratios of one trans to another. If you don't, then you are always doing math. All the gear ratio charts that I have, have had this conversion done just for that reason. Tire size is of course yet another ingredient; BTDT. In dry lake racing, small gear ratio or tire roll-out changes can have a very significant impact on attaining top speed.

Back to my original comment, You will need something better than 3.00:1 (top gear, be it a 4, 5, or 6 speed, multiplied by the R&P ratio) to gain any significan advantage in lowering freeway/cruise RPM.

"but alas, a .84 and 3.88:1 R&P is still taller than our 901 with a .71 fifth and 4.429:1 R&P setup--which means better highway revs and economy."

Better try that math again....0.84 x 3.88 = 3.259.
0.71 x 4.429 = 3.145. The 901 has the taller (lower numerical) final (net) ratio yeilding a lower highway RPM.

Back to the Rancho/sand buggy racer transaxles. I only saw 3.86 as the tallest (lowest numerical) R&P ratio available. Are any 4th gears available that can take us to something better than the 901 final ratio? Sure would be nice......I just love those prices!!!

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jwalters   Bus 4 spd trans   Jan 21 2005, 06:38 PM
TC/914   I'll tell you what I think if you PM me as to ...   Jan 21 2005, 07:07 PM
736conver   I had a 2.0 914 engine in a type 1 chassis, fiberg...   Jan 21 2005, 07:20 PM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Jan 21 2005, 08:13 PM
736conver     Jan 21 2005, 08:24 PM
Mueller  
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SpecialK   <...   Jan 21 2005, 08:36 PM
jwalters   ht...   Jan 21 2005, 09:07 PM
jwalters   ...   Jan 21 2005, 10:27 PM
bondo   Wow, I'm intrigued. How much HP and torque are...   Jan 21 2005, 11:13 PM
Aaron Cox     Jan 21 2005, 11:16 PM
jwalters     Jan 21 2005, 11:53 PM
andys   What are each of the "net" ratios (1 thru 4 x fina...   Jan 21 2005, 11:58 PM
jwalters     Jan 22 2005, 12:13 AM
andys   ...   Jan 22 2005, 12:29 AM
GWN7   I wonder how it would work with a V8?   Jan 22 2005, 01:43 AM
jwalters     Jan 22 2005, 02:10 AM
jwalters     Jan 22 2005, 02:40 AM
SpecialK   I hear ya talkin', but all I see is your avata...   Jan 22 2005, 03:58 AM
redshift   You are never going to be happy with a gear that l...   Jan 22 2005, 05:59 AM
carambola   i don't know about ratio's and stuff like ...   Jan 22 2005, 06:48 AM
scotty b   Bus tranny will bolt right up to a type 4 engine, ...   Jan 22 2005, 08:26 AM
TC/914   I just had RANCHO build a type I swing axle trans ...   Jan 22 2005, 08:57 AM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Jan 22 2005, 09:01 AM
scotty b   TC what did you have to do to mount the vw trans i...   Jan 22 2005, 09:04 AM
jwalters     Jan 22 2005, 09:08 AM
carambola   i appologize must have been thinking of something ...   Jan 22 2005, 10:01 AM
TC/914   Hey Guys, I just got the shipping confirmation fr...   Jan 22 2005, 01:13 PM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Jan 22 2005, 02:33 PM
Tom Perso   I had a Rancho IRS trans in my Bug with a 2270cc T...   Jan 22 2005, 06:43 PM
andys   ...   Jan 22 2005, 10:47 PM
reverie   Tom Perso, that was excellent info... thank you...   Jan 22 2005, 11:19 PM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Jan 23 2005, 07:55 AM
Cap'n Krusty     Jan 23 2005, 10:35 AM
jwalters   Yea well the buggie guys are more interested in tr...   Jan 23 2005, 11:02 AM
andys   ...   Jan 24 2005, 12:58 PM
Mueller   Andy, thanks for the link...that is pretty slick ...   Jan 24 2005, 01:17 PM
Cap'n Krusty   ...   Jan 24 2005, 02:52 PM
Tom Perso   The diameter of all the input shafts (that we are ...   Jan 24 2005, 03:25 PM
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