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> Noise insulation, Engineer types opinions needed
nivekdodge
post Aug 10 2023, 07:12 PM
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Just a thought

There's another thread today discussing using perlon for the back pad and if it was quieter or not. Something I've notice is Some GM hood have their inner surface looking like a golf ball. There are 3" round divots and when asked about it I was told it reflects the sound back to the motor and that kills the sound.Anyone know if there is truth to this?

This would of course be in the engine compartment.

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post Aug 11 2023, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE(nivekdodge @ Aug 10 2023, 08:12 PM) *

Just a thought

There's another thread today discussing using perlon for the back pad and if it was quieter or not. Something I've notice is Some GM hood have their inner surface looking like a golf ball. There are 3" round divots and when asked about it I was told it reflects the sound back to the motor and that kills the sound.Anyone know if there is truth to this?

This would of course be in the engine compartment.

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Last week I was at a dealer looking at a Mercedes GLB since I need a new SUV. Popped the hood to look at the engine. The sales guy pointed out the divots in the underhood bracing without my asking (I was interested in the engine - didn't even notice the hood). He said they are designed to reduce head impact forces in a collision with a pedestrian. That is a bit more believable than the reflecting sound theory... but I don't know the real answer either.
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post Aug 11 2023, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(vitamin914 @ Aug 11 2023, 09:15 AM) *

… designed to reduce head impact forces in a collision with a pedestrian.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) This

All of automotive design has turned into an abomination of government mandates.

Pedestrian impacts are increasing due to wide A-pillar and high belt lines that obscure visibility. Not to mention due to dolts walking around and stepping into traffic while looking at their phones. So now cars are designed for hitting pedestrians. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I think it was one of the German OEMs was even playing with pedestrian air bags .

If you pay attention, you’ll notice hood lines moving up. This is to provide more space between the hood and top of the engine to cushion pedestrian impacts.

A-pillars have grown very thick to meet roll over requirement. These wide A-pillars obscure pedestrian visibility.

Belt lines are rising due to side impact requirements. Ever driven a Camaro? It’s like looking out of a port hole. Outward visibility in that car is among the worst out there.

Rear deck lids are rising and rearward visibility is reduced due to rear impact requirements. Result, more children and pedestrians being run over while vehicle is backing up. Government mandated solution: add a useless rear camera that is easily obscured by water, ice/snow, mud, dust. There were other more elegant solutions but that is what was mandated with full compliance required by 2018.

Meanwhile NHTSA basically just proposed mandating light duty trucks out of existence with a 58 mpg CAFE average. Of course that sort of fuel economy is completely at odds with all the weight that keeps being added to vehicles to meet the impact requirements.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/corp...ge-fuel-economy

Vehicles no longer really designed with the consumer in mind. OEMs just trying to keep up with and meet the endless mandates that are often at odds with other mandates as noted above.
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nivekdodge   Noise insulation   Aug 10 2023, 07:12 PM
mepstein   Perlon is a very lightweight material. You will ha...   Aug 11 2023, 06:11 AM
vitamin914   Just a thought There's another thread today ...   Aug 11 2023, 07:15 AM
Superhawk996   … designed to reduce head impact forces in a co...   Aug 11 2023, 10:42 AM
Alain V.   … designed to reduce head impact forces in a c...   Aug 11 2023, 04:46 PM
wonkipop   … designed to reduce head impact forces in a c...   Aug 12 2023, 07:09 AM
nivekdodge   Like I said, I had heard this in passing and was c...   Aug 11 2023, 07:44 AM
914_teener   Yes there is truth to it. Sound is energy and it...   Aug 11 2023, 10:02 AM
vitamin914   This got me curious... Head impact protection on t...   Aug 11 2023, 03:25 PM
Rusty   Not sure how much value this will add, but here go...   Aug 12 2023, 08:09 AM
Superhawk996   Not sure how much value this will add, but here g...   Aug 12 2023, 10:59 AM
Mikey914   Just a thought There's another thread today ...   Aug 12 2023, 08:26 AM
vitamin914   The only way to "kill" noise is to 1- ...   Aug 12 2023, 01:32 PM
bahnzai   Just a thought There's another thread today...   Aug 12 2023, 07:06 PM
Mikey914   I haven't yet, but was going to play with this...   Aug 13 2023, 08:53 AM
r_towle   You can attack the firewall problem but in the end...   Aug 13 2023, 09:37 AM
Bucci   You can attack the firewall problem but in the en...   Aug 13 2023, 10:17 AM
Superhawk996   [quote name='r_towle' post='3095382' date='Aug 13...   Aug 13 2023, 10:29 AM
vitamin914   [quote name='r_towle' post='3095382' date='Aug 1...   Aug 13 2023, 11:06 AM
Bucci   [quote name='r_towle' post='3095382' date='Aug 1...   Aug 13 2023, 11:36 PM
Geezer914   I used Perlon on the panel behind the seats and Dy...   Aug 13 2023, 09:41 AM
Rob-O   You can attack the firewall problem but in the en...   Aug 13 2023, 09:44 AM
Root_Werks   I had a 914 rear window cut from laminated glass o...   Aug 14 2023, 10:23 AM


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