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> Noise insulation, Engineer types opinions needed
nivekdodge
post Aug 10 2023, 07:12 PM
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Just a thought

There's another thread today discussing using perlon for the back pad and if it was quieter or not. Something I've notice is Some GM hood have their inner surface looking like a golf ball. There are 3" round divots and when asked about it I was told it reflects the sound back to the motor and that kills the sound.Anyone know if there is truth to this?

This would of course be in the engine compartment.

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post Aug 12 2023, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(nivekdodge @ Aug 10 2023, 06:12 PM) *

Just a thought

There's another thread today discussing using perlon for the back pad and if it was quieter or not. Something I've notice is Some GM hood have their inner surface looking like a golf ball. There are 3" round divots and when asked about it I was told it reflects the sound back to the motor and that kills the sound.Anyone know if there is truth to this?

This would of course be in the engine compartment.

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Perlon will offer little sound deadening effect.

The only way to "kill" noise is to
1- have active noise reduction that creates a sound wave opposite the sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVZEtDyTdBI
2- provide a barrier that will absorb the sound ie. dyno Mat or a product similar.




The problem is that when you eliminate noise from the engine compartment, you will get the road noise. There are really too many sources in a 914 to have a "quiet" ride.

So your time and money spent have decreasing returns.

The heavy "tar" mat that is factory works pretty well. If you need to have perlon for an aesthetic you are looking to achieve you could take a back pad and cover it with perlon. Either a stripped-down stock one or one of these-

https://914rubber.com/thermal-formed-3-piece-back-pad-core-1



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post Aug 12 2023, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Aug 12 2023, 10:26 AM) *

QUOTE(nivekdodge @ Aug 10 2023, 06:12 PM) *

Just a thought

There's another thread today discussing using perlon for the back pad and if it was quieter or not. Something I've notice is Some GM hood have their inner surface looking like a golf ball. There are 3" round divots and when asked about it I was told it reflects the sound back to the motor and that kills the sound.Anyone know if there is truth to this?

This would of course be in the engine compartment.

Kevin

Perlon will offer little sound deadening effect.

The only way to "kill" noise is to
1- have active noise reduction that creates a sound wave opposite the sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVZEtDyTdBI
2- provide a barrier that will absorb the sound ie. dyno Mat or a product similar.




The problem is that when you eliminate noise from the engine compartment, you will get the road noise. There are really too many sources in a 914 to have a "quiet" ride.

So your time and money spent have decreasing returns.

The heavy "tar" mat that is factory works pretty well. If you need to have perlon for an aesthetic you are looking to achieve you could take a back pad and cover it with perlon. Either a stripped-down stock one or one of these-

https://914rubber.com/thermal-formed-3-piece-back-pad-core-1



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Mark, do you all offer the 3 piece backpad with Perlon already installed like Matt’s car?
(Edit- Mark I see from another thread that you all are currently short staffed. No big deal on my question here.)
Thanks!
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nivekdodge   Noise insulation   Aug 10 2023, 07:12 PM
mepstein   Perlon is a very lightweight material. You will ha...   Aug 11 2023, 06:11 AM
vitamin914   Just a thought There's another thread today ...   Aug 11 2023, 07:15 AM
Superhawk996   … designed to reduce head impact forces in a co...   Aug 11 2023, 10:42 AM
Alain V.   … designed to reduce head impact forces in a c...   Aug 11 2023, 04:46 PM
wonkipop   … designed to reduce head impact forces in a c...   Aug 12 2023, 07:09 AM
nivekdodge   Like I said, I had heard this in passing and was c...   Aug 11 2023, 07:44 AM
914_teener   Yes there is truth to it. Sound is energy and it...   Aug 11 2023, 10:02 AM
vitamin914   This got me curious... Head impact protection on t...   Aug 11 2023, 03:25 PM
Rusty   Not sure how much value this will add, but here go...   Aug 12 2023, 08:09 AM
Superhawk996   Not sure how much value this will add, but here g...   Aug 12 2023, 10:59 AM
Mikey914   Just a thought There's another thread today ...   Aug 12 2023, 08:26 AM
vitamin914   The only way to "kill" noise is to 1- ...   Aug 12 2023, 01:32 PM
bahnzai   Just a thought There's another thread today...   Aug 12 2023, 07:06 PM
Mikey914   I haven't yet, but was going to play with this...   Aug 13 2023, 08:53 AM
r_towle   You can attack the firewall problem but in the end...   Aug 13 2023, 09:37 AM
Bucci   You can attack the firewall problem but in the en...   Aug 13 2023, 10:17 AM
Superhawk996   [quote name='r_towle' post='3095382' date='Aug 13...   Aug 13 2023, 10:29 AM
vitamin914   [quote name='r_towle' post='3095382' date='Aug 1...   Aug 13 2023, 11:06 AM
Bucci   [quote name='r_towle' post='3095382' date='Aug 1...   Aug 13 2023, 11:36 PM
Geezer914   I used Perlon on the panel behind the seats and Dy...   Aug 13 2023, 09:41 AM
Rob-O   You can attack the firewall problem but in the en...   Aug 13 2023, 09:44 AM
Root_Werks   I had a 914 rear window cut from laminated glass o...   Aug 14 2023, 10:23 AM


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