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> The richening, Pbanders? Chris Foley? Dirty injectors? 2056 and a strange lean
emerygt350
post Sep 24 2023, 03:45 PM
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Ok, car is running great, but it just wants more fuel than my mps can give. It was almost there before I upgraded to the 2056. I have the mps maxed (inner screw all the way loose, won't go any further). I have the full load stop set at 3inhg and the part load kicking in at 7.5 inhg. I have now been inching up the fuel pressure, at 32 now, but the idles is now so rich it is bothering me.
The ecu idle is full lean.


The fuel injectors are 2 years old fj67s. Pbanders states you should be able to run up to 2.2l on d-jet without a problem.

Did I mention I hate pulling injectors?

Car idles great and the cylinders are all equal as far as what the plugs look like. 1000 miles on the top end rebuild. CHT temperatures are going lower and lower as I have been richening it up. I now rarely hit 370. 70 cruising is 350, even less when I am trying to be nice. Oil temps is still great, mostly because of tangerine racings oil cooler bypass. Night and day predictable temps since I installed that. Can't recommend enough. 5 stars.


Could all the injectors have crudded up equally? This would have happened before the rebuild. Since I started the richening earlier this year.

New fuel filter installed 2.5 years ago when I bought the car. New injectors installed after that. Previous owner had a rich condition (mps shot).

Watching the fuel pressure while I drive shows no change, sticks strong at 32 psi.

This plug has 200 miles on it.
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post Sep 27 2023, 04:33 PM
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Exactly. I spent hours the other day trying to move that abrupt change in inductance into that 10-15 spot but it just wouldn't budge. I found that it tended to flatten the curve rather than move the curve where I wanted it. Maybe I will give it another try. I hate messing with the outer screw because it affected everything. Particularly the full load stop. You really need to do that on the bench rather than in the car. Maybe I will muck with that in the car and if it works on that 10-15 I will pull it and reset the full load on the bench.
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emerygt350   The richening   Sep 24 2023, 03:45 PM
r_towle   Djet , properly tuned, can run up to 2.4 racing. B...   Sep 24 2023, 05:03 PM
r_towle   This is a pretty binary system that is tuned or no...   Sep 24 2023, 05:07 PM
emerygt350   I have the AFR already, a vacuum gauge, cht, and ...   Sep 24 2023, 06:06 PM
r_towle   Idle is useless, it’s a different circuit or AF ...   Sep 24 2023, 08:42 PM
emerygt350   123dizzy, so no plates or trigger points. It...   Sep 25 2023, 05:06 AM
bob164   Since the MPS has the Tangerine Racing tunable MPS...   Sep 25 2023, 11:54 AM
emerygt350   Since the MPS has the Tangerine Racing tunable MP...   Sep 25 2023, 02:07 PM
emerygt350   So.... I think I have come to some conclusions. I...   Sep 27 2023, 03:57 PM
rjames   I've been told that the MPS outer screw should...   Sep 27 2023, 04:23 PM
emerygt350   Exactly. I spent hours the other day trying to mo...   Sep 27 2023, 04:33 PM
emerygt350   I cranked on that outer screw today while holding ...   Sep 28 2023, 01:08 PM
rjames   My experience is that the full load stop screw wil...   Sep 28 2023, 01:48 PM
emerygt350   at this point I am starting to consider chicken sa...   Sep 28 2023, 03:01 PM
r_towle   Have you grounded out your CHT wire? Does that cha...   Sep 28 2023, 05:23 PM
ChrisFoley   The system is designed for the engine to run lean ...   Sep 28 2023, 05:59 PM
emerygt350   Yeah, cht works as it should. Chris, I was suspec...   Sep 28 2023, 06:16 PM
r_towle   I told you the trick. Ground our the CHT Make it ...   Sep 29 2023, 07:54 AM
r_towle   I would also focus on timing and the distributor c...   Sep 29 2023, 07:56 AM
emerygt350   I would also focus on timing and the distributor ...   Sep 29 2023, 08:31 AM
emerygt350   I think we are there. This is fully warmed up aft...   Sep 29 2023, 10:14 AM
emerygt350   Just took a look at my timing now that everything ...   Sep 30 2023, 10:56 AM


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