Well, I did a thing, It was a thing I knew better then to do, too. (Thermocouple connecting) |
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Well, I did a thing, It was a thing I knew better then to do, too. (Thermocouple connecting) |
VaccaRabite |
Oct 11 2023, 06:22 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,584 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Continuing to live my life as an object lesson for others...
I recently had to pull my engine for some repairs. For me, part of pulling the engine includes removing the thermocouple from under the #3 spark plug and fishing it out of the engine tins. This runs to the CHT gauge in the cabin of the car. And we all know you are not supposed to cut the wire. Everybody knows that. So I figured I'd cut the wire, add a nice weatherproof automotive plug, and see what happens. All in the name of convenience and curiosity. I drove 300 miles last weekend. Including going fast up a really long couple of hills (like miles long hills) in 5th gear. So the results.... At cold start, the gauge reads the same as ambient temps. Under normal driving, the CHT gauge read slightly cooler then before I added the plug, but within 10 degrees of what I expected. However, when pushing the car, the error rate grew exponentially. Where I would expect the car to be running 340-350 head temps, the gage only showed about 300. And pushing 90 up hill in 5th for over a mile I would expect the gage to read 360+ the gage only ever got to 325. I did not push past what I know this engine required to get to 375 (which is my back off point). The result of this experiment is that if I did not know and expect bogus returns on the gage, I could easily roast an engine and start dropping valve seats, while a quality CHT gage was reporting I was WELL under the 400 degree danger zone. I have another cable I can swap in. Kind of a pain, but not a huge deal. I'll add it o the maintenance schedule. But, yeah. In this case the group think is accurate. The very slight resistance that the plug will add to the cable will be enough to throw off your CHT monitor. Do not cut the line between the thermocouple and your CHT gage. Zach |
Superhawk996 |
Oct 11 2023, 02:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,502 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Verify you have K-type (red and yellow conductors). If that is indeed what you have, I just went though my stash and I have a K-type connector pair (male and female) I will send for free if you want to repair what you have.
FYI - you can also buy silicone boots that will go over the thermocouple connectors to make them more weatherproof but I don't have any of those. Deutsch (some styles) connectors can be ordered with special pins to accommodate the special conductors needed for thermocouples. Think $20 per pin. Standard Deutsch automotive connectors are not going to work as they are still copper pins. |
VaccaRabite |
Oct 12 2023, 07:41 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,584 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Verify you have K-type (red and yellow conductors). If that is indeed what you have, I just went though my stash and I have a K-type connector pair (male and female) I will send for free if you want to repair what you have. FYI - you can also buy silicone boots that will go over the thermocouple connectors to make them more weatherproof but I don't have any of those. Deutsch (some styles) connectors can be ordered with special pins to accommodate the special conductors needed for thermocouples. Think $20 per pin. Standard Deutsch automotive connectors are not going to work as they are still copper pins. Yes, its a K type thermocouple. and Thank You! Zach |
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