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Chasing a firm brake pedal, What next? |
robkammer |
Oct 17 2023, 02:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 7-January 21 From: Vermilion Ohio Member No.: 25,049 Region Association: North East States |
Teeners: It's been over two years since our 74 BB arrived. A Caliper blew out as it came off the transporter in 12 degree temps. Really no surprise as the PPI pointed out a leaky caliper. So I did what I thought would be appropriate for this little beauty, I sent all of the hard bits out, calipers and regulator, to a widely recognized firm for 'restoration'. Put in a new EZ master from 914. And all should have been fine. But, even now, after 1800 miles, a second set of calipers from the 'restorer', a new ATE MC from the restorer. ( I threw out the EZ MC). I still have squishy pedal.
I do not suspect the pedal box area as the car has absolutely no rust. I just rebuilt the 'restored' front calipers with new square cuts from AA, took out the springy metal pieces that are supposed to keep the pistons from rotating, and the pedal is much better. I have about 50 miles on this but after bleeding it again the bleeders were leaking and I put it back on the lift. ( I was told: maybe: we left the calipers in the acid too long) So: Now that the pedal seems like I might be on my way to GOOD braking, I can hear the pressure regulator knocking when I press the pedal, at a standstill, in the shop. Is this normal and to be expected? Note: During attempts to bed the brakes and get them working, I was only ever to lock up the rears, and it was really difficult to do. ( difficult may not be accurate, violent might be more appropriate) The newly rebuilt calipers seem fine, just like the calipers in my 911's that I rebuilt. As for bleeding, I've done it every way known to man. And some new ones too. Just picked up a 6th quart of Super 4. $26.00!!! A fifth of Weller was only $23!. I'm really frustrated with this little car. Any input will be appreciated. I'm thinking of putting in a Tee in place of the regulator, just for testing. If anyone has a Tee that they would be willing to let me borrow, I would be willing pick up all of the shipping just so I don't have to mess with the fab work. Thanks, |
jhynesrockmtn |
Oct 18 2023, 08:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 425 Joined: 13-June 16 From: spokane wa Member No.: 20,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
As explained in my RR thread, we got stuck in Bend OR and were put back on the road by a mechanic who runs the "classic" shop at the Porsche dealership. Not a certified Porsche Classic Center but an old school mechanic who only works on the older cars. Anyway, he saw my new PMB restored calipers in my BB and after backing my car up to get it out of the shop, commented on my somewhat squishy pedal. I installed new flex lines and the calipers, but left my regulator and MC in the car untouched, as the brakes were fine when I first got the car.
He said he uses PMB for all of his rebuilds but when doing an initial bleed, does it with the pads removed, and something thinner like a screwdriver in place to keep the pistons from moving too far, but further than they could with the pads installed. He swears this has been the key to getting a firm pedal with restored calipers. |
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