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> 2024 Porsche 914?, Dall-E designed
trylon
post Nov 15 2023, 10:07 AM
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post Nov 15 2023, 11:09 AM
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That looks pretty good in my estimation.

I have done design critique for my dad's stuff for most of my life.

What I see wrong in that picture is this:

As Brant mentioned the wheel arch openings suck. Front is not nearly as bad as the rear.

The proportions are off a tiny bit. The front is slightly too big from the windshield forward. maybe 5-10% too big. Car looks front heavy to me.

I think the targa bar should be more pronounced where it blends into the body at the bottom. Making this look more 911 like is a good call IMO.

Line at front upper door to fender is too curvy. Needs to be curved, just less.

No rear hood part line, windshield wipers, mirrors, etc.
It is an illustration...

I'd make the rocker panels more flared at the ends. Give the rocker a little bit of a coke bottle shape.

What's up with the rear spoiler/scoop looking this on the back?
I'd want to see more angles of that.
Looks funny at this perspective.

The fabricator in me sees no part line for front bumper/cap; needs one.

The technician in me sees almost no camber in the suspension alignment.

That would have taken my dad a week of 2-3 hours a night to produce.

His design would NOT have had that nice background and road.

I wonder how long it took an AI to do that?

Probably seconds...

The shape of the front end is excellent IMO.
We will be making a nose cap for the 916 clone and I will probably incorporate something similar.
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post Nov 15 2023, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(technicalninja @ Nov 15 2023, 12:09 PM) *

That looks pretty good in my estimation.

I have done design critique for my dad's stuff for most of my life.

What I see wrong in that picture is this:

As Brant mentioned the wheel arch openings suck. Front is not nearly as bad as the rear.

The proportions are off a tiny bit. The front is slightly too big from the windshield forward. maybe 5-10% too big. Car looks front heavy to me.

I think the targa bar should be more pronounced where it blends into the body at the bottom. Making this look more 911 like is a good call IMO.

Line at front upper door to fender is too curvy. Needs to be curved, just less.

No rear hood part line, windshield wipers, mirrors, etc.
It is an illustration...

I'd make the rocker panels more flared at the ends. Give the rocker a little bit of a coke bottle shape.

What's up with the rear spoiler/scoop looking this on the back?
I'd want to see more angles of that.
Looks funny at this perspective.

The fabricator in me sees no part line for front bumper/cap; needs one.

The technician in me sees almost no camber in the suspension alignment.

That would have taken my dad a week of 2-3 hours a night to produce.

His design would NOT have had that nice background and road.

I wonder how long it took an AI to do that?

Probably seconds...

The shape of the front end is excellent IMO.
We will be making a nose cap for the 916 clone and I will probably incorporate something similar.


So interesting to hear your comments! Yes, I would say the actual processing time to produce this was probably less than a second though I am not well versed in this particular technology. [just checked with Chat about this— you are correct “a matter of seconds”]

Here is the prompt ChatGPT created to send to DALL-E (guess I said 2023):

"A modern 2023 Porsche 914 concept car. The design should be a contemporary reinterpretation of the classic Porsche 914's design elements, featuring its distinctive targa top and mid-engine layout. The updated version should have a more aggressive stance with sleek, aerodynamic lines, LED lighting, and modern alloy wheels. The car should be placed in a setting that suggests performance and luxury, such as a winding coastal road or a sophisticated urban environment."

I asked Chat what would happen with minor tweak suggestions:

“If you request tweaks to the original prompt, the new image generated by DALL·E will likely have noticeable differences. The AI uses the text prompt to create an image based on patterns it learned during training, so even small changes to the prompt can result in different details in the image. The overall concept may remain recognizable, especially if the changes are minor, but the exact outcome can be unpredictable. Each generation is unique, and DALL·E may interpret the same prompt with slight variations each time.”

I then asked Chat to recreate the image incorporating the comments made in your critque:

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Here’s the prompt it created:

"A refined 2023 Porsche 914 concept car addressing specific design critiques. Adjust the wheel arch openings to be less pronounced in the rear, and subtly alter the car's proportions to reduce the front section by 5-10%, balancing the vehicle's stance. The targa bar should be more distinct where it merges into the body, resembling the 911 style. Soften the curvature of the line from the upper door to the fender. Add necessary details like rear hood part lines, windshield wipers, and mirrors. Flare the rocker panels more at the ends, giving them a slight 'coke bottle' shape. Rework the rear spoiler to appear more integrated and less awkward from the current perspective. Include a part line for the front bumper to distinguish it, and adjust the suspension to show a more realistic camber."

So I think the lesson learned here is that this is not a viable design tool — at the moment. Nice idea generating tool but not tuned for tweaking.
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trylon   2024 Porsche 914?   Nov 15 2023, 10:07 AM
VaccaRabite   I guess we should expect posts about AI derived ca...   Nov 15 2023, 10:14 AM
Optimusglen   I guess we should expect posts about AI derived c...   Nov 16 2023, 10:50 AM
ClayPerrine   I actually like it. It is a good progression of th...   Nov 15 2023, 10:24 AM
Superhawk996   Take the badge off the hood and it might not be to...   Nov 15 2023, 10:25 AM
brant   I think they should have tried to echo the origina...   Nov 15 2023, 10:26 AM
Superhawk996   I think they should have tried to echo the origin...   Nov 15 2023, 10:50 AM
Cairo94507   I like it but with the change @brant suggested. ...   Nov 15 2023, 10:29 AM
NARP74   That badge is too big. Smooth design though.   Nov 15 2023, 10:37 AM
trylon   Just asked ChatGPT for an image of a 2024 Porsche ...   Nov 15 2023, 10:51 AM
ClayPerrine   Even if they built it, it would be half again bigg...   Nov 15 2023, 10:53 AM
Superhawk996   Even if they built it, it would be half again big...   Nov 15 2023, 10:55 AM
rick 918-S   Even if they built it, it would be half again bi...   Nov 15 2023, 04:21 PM
technicalninja   That looks pretty good in my estimation. I have d...   Nov 15 2023, 11:09 AM
trylon   That looks pretty good in my estimation. I have ...   Nov 15 2023, 11:42 AM
Superhawk996   So it spat out a modified Dino?? :lol:   Nov 15 2023, 11:55 AM
technicalninja   OK, this is the COOLEST thing I've ever come a...   Nov 15 2023, 12:10 PM
trylon   OK, this is the COOLEST thing I've ever come ...   Nov 15 2023, 01:12 PM
euro911   I thought the Boxter was the evolution, or rebirth...   Nov 15 2023, 12:44 PM
JmuRiz   ...because it is. The Boxster/Cayman is the new 9...   Nov 15 2023, 12:48 PM
trylon   I will let Chat chime in on this: “The driving ...   Nov 15 2023, 01:11 PM
Jack Standz   Maybe you could have it design a "modern...   Nov 15 2023, 01:41 PM
trylon   Maybe you could have it design a "modern...   Nov 15 2023, 02:05 PM
SirAndy   Maybe you could have it design a "modern...   Nov 15 2023, 02:13 PM
SirAndy   Hmmm, last i used DALL-E, you could pick an image,...   Nov 15 2023, 02:18 PM
trylon   [quote name='trylon' post='3112915' date='Nov 15 ...   Nov 15 2023, 03:24 PM
ClayPerrine   In the second rendering , the upper picture looks ...   Nov 15 2023, 03:13 PM
JmuRiz   Dall-E….nah, how about a Dali car ;)   Nov 15 2023, 08:20 PM
emerygt350   Love this interpretation... Oh wait. That...   Nov 16 2023, 06:44 AM
Superhawk996   Love this interpretation... Oh wait. That...   Nov 16 2023, 08:40 AM
73-914   Love this interpretation... Oh wait. That...   Nov 19 2023, 09:54 AM
Brett W   No pop up headlights no care.   Nov 16 2023, 09:02 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   very very well done! Keeps the essence of t...   Nov 16 2023, 10:14 AM
trylon   very very well done! Keeps the essence of ...   Nov 17 2023, 09:43 AM
emerygt350   I wonder if it would even be possible with today...   Nov 16 2023, 10:34 AM
technicalninja   After seeing the two different illustrations it ca...   Nov 16 2023, 10:58 AM
Maltese Falcon   After seeing the two different illustrations it c...   Nov 17 2023, 10:50 AM
technicalninja   Dad and I have been arguing about a retro-modern 9...   Nov 16 2023, 11:07 AM
Dion   Back to in period “modern”. I think this inte...   Nov 16 2023, 09:34 PM
Maltese Falcon   Back to in period “modern”. I think this int...   Nov 17 2023, 10:45 AM
trylon   Further attempts: I think the one that led this...   Nov 17 2023, 09:52 AM
technicalninja   Really nice illustrations! The background wou...   Nov 17 2023, 10:57 AM
trylon   Really nice illustrations! The background wo...   Nov 17 2023, 03:37 PM
technicalninja   that's 904... Way cool. Not 916. It doesn...   Nov 17 2023, 03:43 PM
trylon   that's 904... Way cool. Not 916. It doesn...   Nov 17 2023, 08:30 PM
technicalninja   I introduced my dad to the thread today. He was b...   Nov 17 2023, 10:48 PM
trylon   I introduced my dad to the thread today. He was ...   Nov 18 2023, 07:41 AM
Cairo94507   OMG! I love that 904 rendering! :beer2:   Nov 18 2023, 08:58 AM
Jack Standz   Very nice renderings! It's amazing what ...   Nov 18 2023, 11:26 AM
technicalninja   Very nice renderings! It's amazing what...   Nov 18 2023, 12:49 PM
trylon   If you are not familiar with the technology, it mi...   Nov 18 2023, 01:10 PM
mate914   If you are not familiar with the technology, it m...   Nov 19 2023, 07:36 AM
flat4guy   These are all good looking cars - I would drive an...   Nov 18 2023, 09:59 PM
930cabman   These are all good looking cars - I would drive a...   Nov 19 2023, 04:34 PM
wonkipop   from a critical artistic and technological point o...   Nov 18 2023, 10:35 PM
mate914   from a critical artistic and technological point ...   Nov 19 2023, 07:42 AM
Front yard mechanic   I like the quarter window on one side. that way my...   Nov 19 2023, 07:23 AM
wonkipop   I like the quarter window on one side. that way m...   Nov 22 2023, 01:25 AM
76-914   They're all gorgeous. I wouldn't kick any ...   Nov 19 2023, 09:39 AM
trylon   Gentleman and Ladies- Although this is hardly the...   Nov 19 2023, 02:36 PM
technicalninja   :agree: Significant! A little disturbing...   Nov 19 2023, 02:57 PM
technicalninja   Even I was sucked in without too much effort. ...   Nov 19 2023, 02:59 PM
trylon   RE: 2024 Porsche 914?   Nov 19 2023, 04:09 PM
peteinjp   Gotta say- we’re really not so different. I mean...   Nov 21 2023, 09:03 AM
KELTY360   Will the program provide an editable wire frame ve...   Nov 21 2023, 12:23 PM
Optimusglen   Will the program provide an editable wire frame v...   Nov 22 2023, 10:01 AM
VaccaRabite   Will the program provide an editable wire frame ...   Nov 22 2023, 10:37 AM
SirAndy   [quote name='Optimusglen' post='3114135' date='No...   Nov 22 2023, 11:08 AM
euro911   Well ... :confused: [url=https://www.topgear...   Nov 23 2023, 02:18 AM
trylon   Well ... :confused: [url=https://www.topgea...   Nov 25 2023, 10:51 AM


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