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> Fun with Electricity, PO Stuff #5 in the series, or is it #6?
NARP74
post Sep 25 2023, 12:25 PM
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Going to RRC2023 last week, I lost all my gauges just after leaving home. Pulled over to check things out and found a blown fuse. Blew a couple more before I figured out it was the left turn signal. Didn't use them for the rest of the weekend. I asked around and someone suggested I check the flasher or turn signal relay. I dropped the fuse panel and found this. Did someone swap my relays around?
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post Nov 20 2023, 09:27 AM
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So the latest is that the fuse has stopped blowing, a couple of possible fixes for that one. An intermittent short in the trunk wiring for the tail light assembly, and I might have fried a relay. Will test the relay later. Got those both sorted.

I decided to put the incandescent bulbs back in the front turn signal housing and guess what? Things started working as I would expect. The LEDs are all still installed in the rear, incandescents up front. The blinkers function normally with no other lights on, 1 blink per second and both dash indicators are bright and flash at the same time. They also function correctly with parking lights and head lights on.

Looks like it might be something with the LED bulbs in that front position. I have no idea why they work in the rear but not the front. Same bulbs I think, just a different color in the back. I will swap and see what happens.

I can't be the only one trying to use LED bulbs for the front turn signals.

And here is one more oddity, with the LEDs in the front, no keys in the ignition, no lights on or anything running, if I hit the turn signals in either direction, there is enough current leakage to faintly light the LED bulbs, no blink, just a faint light. I get that they use less voltage but is that normal? Does that point to a turn signal switch issue?

And for the dial gauge indicators, are the arrows both supposed to light up no matter which way the turn signal is moved, or are they supposed to mirror the direction of the switch? I thought I had seen a previous discussion on this question.
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post Nov 20 2023, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(NARP74 @ Nov 20 2023, 10:27 AM) *

And for the dial gauge indicators, are the arrows both supposed to light up no matter which way the turn signal is moved, or are they supposed to mirror the direction of the switch? I thought I had seen a previous discussion on this question.



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What year is your car? I've heard that for some early? '74 cars with single L/R indicator, some '73 tachs were used and both L and R were wired together. Have you seen yours before light separately? When going to LED turnsignals with the OEM flasher, both L and R indicators will light together and there's a chance that the opposite side turnsignal will light gently.

If using LEDs on all turnsignals, you need an LED-compatible flasher like EP26 with the K2 pin modded to ground.
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NARP74   Fun with Electricity   Sep 25 2023, 12:25 PM
87m491   They are not in the same location/order as mine, b...   Sep 25 2023, 12:47 PM
NARP74   I guess the bases could be swapped. I'll have...   Sep 25 2023, 12:50 PM
Dave_Darling   The electrons don't care where the relays are....   Sep 26 2023, 01:26 AM
914Sixer   I see lots of NON STOCK wires in the background. ...   Sep 26 2023, 05:36 AM
NARP74   I have not even started looking at the non stock w...   Sep 26 2023, 10:06 AM
NARP74   It gets worse. Why was this cut and bypassed?   Sep 26 2023, 10:08 AM
Spoke   It gets worse. Why was this cut and bypassed? ...   Nov 21 2023, 11:23 AM
NARP74   What is this add on wire for?   Sep 26 2023, 10:08 AM
87m491   That is a jumper wire to make the later 5 pin dire...   Sep 26 2023, 07:59 PM
jim_hoyland   I had a similiar issue and is was: “If the left ...   Sep 26 2023, 10:50 AM
NARP74   Swapped relays with others I had, no change. Foun...   Oct 14 2023, 02:35 PM
NARP74   Been working on this for a while now. I managed t...   Nov 17 2023, 01:03 PM
NARP74   Any ideas here???   Nov 18 2023, 10:28 AM
Ishley   I can’t say definitively… but I had gremlins i...   Nov 18 2023, 07:09 PM
campbellcj   ^^^ I just went thru the same thing - pulled my ha...   Nov 19 2023, 07:32 AM
NARP74   Buying NOS or used old ones on Samba? Any good ne...   Nov 19 2023, 08:59 AM
campbellcj   Buying NOS or used old ones on Samba? Any good n...   Nov 20 2023, 05:24 PM
Tbrown4x4   I have had good luck finding intermittent shorts b...   Nov 19 2023, 09:06 AM
NARP74   I have had good luck finding intermittent shorts ...   Nov 19 2023, 09:23 AM
76-914   After you cleaned and replaced the bulbs you now h...   Nov 19 2023, 09:23 AM
NARP74   After you cleaned and replaced the bulbs you now ...   Nov 19 2023, 09:30 AM
Spoke   I figured out it was the left turn signal. Keep ...   Nov 19 2023, 09:57 AM
Tbrown4x4   I have had good luck finding intermittent shorts...   Nov 19 2023, 06:31 PM
NARP74   So the latest is that the fuse has stopped blowing...   Nov 20 2023, 09:27 AM
Spoke   And for the dial gauge indicators, are the arrows...   Nov 20 2023, 09:57 PM
87m491   I can't be the only one trying to use LED bu...   Nov 22 2023, 03:08 PM
NARP74   I can't be the only one trying to use LED b...   Nov 22 2023, 03:40 PM
VaccaRabite   Its the switch. You need a switch that is designe...   Nov 20 2023, 10:57 AM
NARP74   I have talked to a few people and verified on anot...   Nov 20 2023, 01:58 PM
NARP74   Car is a 74, but... it has a Gates dash conversion...   Nov 21 2023, 09:16 AM
Spoke   Car is a 74, but... it has a Gates dash conversio...   Nov 21 2023, 11:07 AM
majkos1   Don't you have Five gauges ? That's a Gett...   Nov 21 2023, 04:46 PM
NARP74   Don't you have Five gauges ? That's a Get...   Nov 22 2023, 09:14 AM


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