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| FlacaProductions |
 Dec 14 2023, 09:50 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,733 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California 
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74 2.0 D-Jet
Heading to the garage now to start the install and my main, unresolved-in-my-brain question is if i need to hook up the vacuum line that is on my current stock distributor, on the 123. |
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| Rob-O |
Dec 16 2023, 10:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Hey Brian, I didn’t see this prior so you may have addressed it. Are you using the Bluetooth version or the version where you choose a map and forget it?
My experience is with the Bluetooth model but I assume they both have the set it with the green light feature. Glad to hear the 180 out part was resolved. Now onward! So if the car is lethargic we can diagnose and fix that. |
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FlacaProductions 123 Install Today - GETTING CLOSER... Dec 14 2023, 09:50 AM
87m491
74 2.0 D-Jet
Heading to the garage now to start ... Dec 14 2023, 10:29 AM rjames
74 2.0 D-Jet
Heading to the garage now to start ... Dec 14 2023, 10:40 AM 914_teener Why wouldn't you want to use it? Dec 14 2023, 10:58 AM FlacaProductions Ok. Will use the vac line from the throttle body t... Dec 14 2023, 11:09 AM
emerygt350
Ok. Will use the vac line from the throttle body ... Dec 14 2023, 02:11 PM technicalninja I'd hook that pup up to MANIFOLD vacuum only.
... Dec 14 2023, 02:40 PM Lockwodo
I'd hook that pup up to MANIFOLD vacuum only.... Dec 14 2023, 03:16 PM DRPHIL914 "Posted vacuum comes from a vacuum port that ... Dec 14 2023, 03:13 PM FlacaProductions ok - it's in, got a green light, put the cap a... Dec 14 2023, 04:39 PM technicalninja
On my '74 2.0 with 123 ignition, I've co... Dec 14 2023, 05:14 PM FlacaProductions Had a little moment tonight and went back out and ... Dec 14 2023, 06:23 PM FlacaProductions Still no luck.
I’ve basically redone the instal... Dec 15 2023, 11:33 AM 914_teener Call them....you've done something wrong if it... Dec 15 2023, 01:24 PM FlacaProductions I did call and Ed was great. Confirmed all the wi... Dec 15 2023, 03:11 PM Rob-O The whole TDC is now 180 off is a red flag. Eithe... Dec 15 2023, 03:58 PM FlacaProductions Yeah @Rob-O - it's 180 "out" and m... Dec 15 2023, 04:09 PM Front yard mechanic I’m no expert on the 123 but icarr on the pelic... Dec 15 2023, 04:26 PM FlacaProductions RESOLVED.
IT WAS 180 OUT.
I didn't think you c... Dec 15 2023, 04:54 PM porschetub
RESOLVED.
IT WAS 180 OUT.
I didn't think you ... Dec 15 2023, 05:30 PM Superhawk996 The whole - “it won’t fit 180 out” is some s... Dec 15 2023, 08:22 PM Stratfink Glad you got it figured out Brian. I struggled wit... Dec 16 2023, 01:16 AM FlacaProductions Well - I got it where it'll start now but that... Dec 16 2023, 12:10 PM 914_teener Are you SURE the firing order is right? Dec 16 2023, 03:41 PM FlacaProductions i know...right?
Just double-checked it just now.
... Dec 16 2023, 05:14 PM emerygt350 It would be worth figuring out what your vacuum ho... Dec 16 2023, 07:34 PM emerygt350 Sorry, not time for the vacuum I guess! While... Dec 16 2023, 07:37 PM emerygt350 Are you sure you are sending the right wires to th... Dec 16 2023, 07:39 PM emerygt350 And don't hook that vacuum line up yet. Just ... Dec 16 2023, 07:40 PM FlacaProductions I'm taking all-comers at this point, @emerygt... Dec 16 2023, 08:30 PM GBX0073 Brian
From my experience and understanding of che... Dec 16 2023, 10:13 PM FlacaProductions Ok @GBX0073 - Thank you!
Onward.
I have als... Dec 16 2023, 10:28 PM FlacaProductions Hey @Rob-O - Bluetooth with drop it in, rotate C... Dec 16 2023, 10:50 PM Rob-O Okay so progress…
So I want to be sure. You se... Dec 16 2023, 11:15 PM 914_teener
Okay so progress…
So I want to be sure. You s... Dec 17 2023, 05:36 PM Rob-O 123 curve Dec 16 2023, 11:18 PM Stratfink Any chance you tried the “flat” 10 degree curv... Dec 16 2023, 11:51 PM FlacaProductions Hey @Rob-O - That's been the exact procedure... Dec 17 2023, 09:16 AM FlacaProductions Latest update.
ok.
it runs. correctly - no fighti... Dec 17 2023, 12:28 PM rjames How well did the car run with the old setup? Dec 17 2023, 12:50 PM FlacaProductions Ran great other than warm due to vac can not holdi... Dec 17 2023, 12:54 PM emerygt350 Hmmm. Have you tried rotating the distributor? Dec 17 2023, 01:23 PM Lockwodo Yes, I'm wondering if the advance is way low, ... Dec 17 2023, 01:38 PM FlacaProductions @emerygt350 - Yes - rotated both ways but CCW did... Dec 17 2023, 02:26 PM emerygt350 I struggled for a bit with mine too but after I re... Dec 17 2023, 03:18 PM Stratfink
Process was: remove 123, confirm TDC, install old... Dec 17 2023, 04:13 PM technicalninja :agree:
I bought a carb and 1.8l BT version from... Dec 17 2023, 06:57 PM Dave_Darling D-Jet is open-loop; there is zero feedback from th... Dec 17 2023, 07:00 PM FlacaProductions
I do agree that the basics need to be re-confirme... Dec 17 2023, 08:25 PM 914_teener
D-Jet is open-loop; there is zero feedback from t... Dec 17 2023, 11:42 PM FlacaProductions @Stratfink - No apologies - it's gotta be tim... Dec 17 2023, 07:45 PM iankarr Installing and setting to the green light basicall... Dec 17 2023, 09:42 PM FlacaProductions @iankarr - Thanks for this but your original post... Dec 18 2023, 08:22 AM VaccaRabite
I've done the install, green light, load the... Dec 18 2023, 04:43 PM iankarr Hmmm. I’d verify all connections to the dizzy an... Dec 18 2023, 02:19 PM emerygt350 Yeah, I would check all the bits... Injectors, plu... Dec 18 2023, 05:57 PM FlacaProductions Keep in mind that i'm now away from the 914 so... Dec 19 2023, 09:32 AM emerygt350
Keep in mind that i'm now away from the 914 s... Dec 19 2023, 09:53 AM FlacaProductions two pins, 3 slots. basically, leave the center sl... Dec 19 2023, 10:02 AM VaccaRabite Did you ever test spark to make sure each cylinder... Dec 19 2023, 10:15 AM FlacaProductions I did not test spark to every cylinder - i honestl... Dec 19 2023, 10:28 AM technicalninja Heads up!
One of my fans ONLY has a mark at 7... Dec 19 2023, 10:50 AM FlacaProductions @technicalninja - This motor was built by Brad Ma... Dec 19 2023, 10:55 AM technicalninja You should be fine then.
I would automatically ma... Dec 19 2023, 11:05 AM FlacaProductions I'm still hoping i'm not finding TDC....or... Dec 19 2023, 11:18 AM iankarr Lining up the notch on the flywheel with the case ... Dec 19 2023, 11:32 AM FlacaProductions 100%
I'm bummed that it's going to be a fe... Dec 19 2023, 11:44 AM VaccaRabite
100%
I'm bummed that it's going to be a f... Dec 19 2023, 12:46 PM technicalninja @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Dec 19 2023, 01:10 PM technicalninja @123ignitionusa
Sending notification so Ed can s... Dec 19 2023, 01:23 PM FlacaProductions I talked to Ed twice in one day. Fantastic. Dec 19 2023, 03:01 PM GBX0073 Another Vote for Ed @ 123 USA Outstanding Customer... Dec 19 2023, 10:32 PM 123ignitionusa This reply comes straight from the mfg.
Hope this ... Dec 20 2023, 08:20 AM technicalninja Bit more info from the maunfacture's tech guy ... Dec 20 2023, 12:11 PM technicalninja After thinking about how I'd try to "skin... Dec 20 2023, 02:13 PM VaccaRabite
We need 33-39 degrees advance at high-speed full... Dec 20 2023, 03:48 PM Dave_Darling My suggestions:
Go back to the beginning. Double... Dec 20 2023, 02:56 PM FlacaProductions Great checklist/procedure Dave - thank you.
I thi... Dec 20 2023, 02:59 PM emerygt350 Ported only pulls vacuum when the throttle is just... Dec 20 2023, 03:05 PM technicalninja
Ported only pulls vacuum when the throttle is jus... Dec 20 2023, 03:19 PM technicalninja
[quote name='technicalninja' post='3119063' date=... Dec 20 2023, 04:22 PM FlacaProductions Now if you could just get my car to start.... :sh... Dec 20 2023, 05:00 PM technicalninja Just re-read everything.
@iankarr advice is spot... Dec 20 2023, 05:57 PM FlacaProductions :agree: Dec 20 2023, 06:40 PM 123ignitionusa A car will run on it's old points distributor ... Dec 21 2023, 09:15 AM FlacaProductions One thing that you mentioned to me, Ed was to disc... Dec 21 2023, 09:53 AM technicalninja
One thing that you mentioned to me, Ed was to dis... Dec 21 2023, 11:29 AM FlacaProductions The difference is that the way I described takes t... Dec 21 2023, 12:25 PM 914_teener
The difference is that the way I described takes ... Dec 21 2023, 02:21 PM FlacaProductions Welp - I'm going to pretty much stop right her... Dec 21 2023, 03:04 PM FlacaProductions Well - after reading this thread, I'm not in t... Mar 24 2024, 11:37 AM VaccaRabite I've been following that thread too.
His issue... Mar 25 2024, 08:45 AM FlacaProductions Ok, Zach - you're right. Too much idle time a... Mar 25 2024, 08:55 AM 914_teener
Ok, Zach - you're right. Too much idle time ... Mar 26 2024, 02:46 PM emerygt350 At least worst case on these motors isn't the ... Mar 25 2024, 05:16 PM FlacaProductions Ok, folks - back at it today.
Progress. Sometimes... Apr 27 2024, 01:56 PM emerygt350 Good to hear it! Apr 27 2024, 02:27 PM Stratfink That is GREAT news Brian. So glad it fired up and ... Apr 28 2024, 12:35 AM FlacaProductions OK. BIG revelation.
Turns out my MPS appears to h... Apr 28 2024, 08:54 AM |
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