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> 1972 1.7 Orange (L20E) can't find the color, The right colour
Rikky74
post Jan 21 2024, 03:16 AM
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Hi, there! I am struggeling to find the L20E color what is on my car from the factory. A couple of weeks ago I ordered a spraycan with Porsche L20E paint, but received a very light Orange (almost yellow) orange colour. This coulor seems to be also a original Orange colour that Porsche was using, and I think still uses on Porsches. But mine is Signal Orange from '72 with the L20E on the original plate in the doorspace . It looks like more Amber, but I don't want to order an other one and risking it's not the right one. Anyone who is familiar with this problem? Thanks!


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post Jan 21 2024, 03:42 AM
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first of all its a VW color not a porsche color.

its tangerine.
which may as well be phoenix red (74 color)
but.

anything red from the 1970s was created with cadmium
now a banned material (like lead = poison).

also the actual paints, glasurit are difficult to source as they are also consiidired as greta thurnburg grade morally condemned. so its tricky.

but to assist its a VW color not a porsche color.

good luck. i am interested to know how you go with it.
i have a phoenix red 74 914 and i have serious doubts the original color can be exactly reproduced.

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post Jan 21 2024, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 21 2024, 10:42 AM) *

first of all its a VW color not a porsche color.

its tangerine.
which may as well be phoenix red (74 color)
but.

anything red from the 1970s was created with cadmium
now a banned material (like lead = poison).

also the actual paints, glasurit are difficult to source as they are also consiidired as greta thurnburg grade morally condemned. so its tricky.

but to assist its a VW color not a porsche color.

good luck. i am interested to know how you go with it.
i have a phoenix red 74 914 and i have serious doubts the original color can be exactly reproduced.

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Thanks, but all the colours you are mentioning are different colour codes; Tangerine (L21E) Phoenix Red (L32K) so looks like I am still searching for the L20E of VW, but based on the discussion I had with the paint shop, L20E Porsche and VW were the same recipes. Anyone else a different view?
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post Jan 21 2024, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(Rikky74 @ Jan 21 2024, 03:59 AM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 21 2024, 10:42 AM) *

first of all its a VW color not a porsche color.

its tangerine.
which may as well be phoenix red (74 color)
but.

anything red from the 1970s was created with cadmium
now a banned material (like lead = poison).

also the actual paints, glasurit are difficult to source as they are also consiidired as greta thurnburg grade morally condemned. so its tricky.

but to assist its a VW color not a porsche color.

good luck. i am interested to know how you go with it.
i have a phoenix red 74 914 and i have serious doubts the original color can be exactly reproduced.

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Thanks, but all the colours you are mentioning are different colour codes; Tangerine (L21E) Phoenix Red (L32K) so looks like I am still searching for the L20E of VW, but based on the discussion I had with the paint shop, L20E Porsche and VW were the same recipes. Anyone else a different view?


apologies re the color code on the door plate.
i foolishly went straight off the external color of the car in the photo.
however i believe @Superhawk996 is correct.
it sure does not look like its painted L20E or signal orange.

here is signal orange.

https://www.colors.rs/colorsearch?tag=w~ezm...p;searchtype=rs

by the looks of the image you included of the door jamb that sure does look original paint in there without a doubt. door hinge pins unpainted from factory. and it looks tangerine. or blood orange as it was also sometimes called. i think it was called tangerine in the USA. i know the exact same color was referred to by its european naming protocol in australia. it was called blood orange.

photos can be deceiving. but i don't think that much. the car would look a lot yellower i believe if it was signal orange L20E.

it would not be the first time a 914 had a wrong label or mistake from factory.
rare but did appear to happen.

i am not sure what you need the paint for.
is it a touch up area.
you say you ordered a spray can from porsche.
i imagine it was not too much money or cost.
try ordering a can of tangerine L21E if its a reasonable small cost.
see of you can get hold of it and do a test with that.

a year or so back another member of this website was trying to get hold of solvent based glasurit paint (original glasurit formula paint). it was for a 74 color. he was having no luck in the USA.
as far as i know its a possibly a similar problem in Europe by now. they have stopped making it as far as i know. all water based with clear coat over.

as i mentioned the reds are particularly tricky. very tricky.
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Rikky74   1972 1.7 Orange (L20E) can't find the color   Jan 21 2024, 03:16 AM
wonkipop   first of all its a VW color not a porsche color. ...   Jan 21 2024, 03:42 AM
Rikky74   first of all its a VW color not a porsche color. ...   Jan 21 2024, 03:59 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3124751' date='Jan 2...   Jan 21 2024, 12:20 PM
Superhawk996   You will not find a perfect match just by paint co...   Jan 21 2024, 05:48 AM
StarBear   You will not find a perfect match just by paint c...   Jan 21 2024, 07:46 AM
East coaster   Your car looks to be L21E (Tangerine), not L20E (S...   Jan 21 2024, 06:54 AM
SirAndy   Your car looks to be L21E (Tangerine), not L20E (...   Jan 21 2024, 03:53 PM
Literati914   Are you absolutely positive it’s never been repa...   Jan 21 2024, 10:21 AM
wonkipop   Are you absolutely positive it’s never been rep...   Jan 21 2024, 01:30 PM
mate914   Blood red was the name of the color in English rig...   Jan 22 2024, 05:42 AM
black73   ... I suppose there’s a chance that a mistake w...   Jan 22 2024, 04:39 AM
Jett   +1 on the potential printing issue. Curious as to...   Jan 21 2024, 01:21 PM
Geezer914   Color chart for 1972 lists L21E Tangerine, if this...   Jan 21 2024, 03:11 PM
Geezer914   Color chart for 1972 lists L21E Tangerine, if this...   Jan 21 2024, 03:11 PM
Rikky74   Thanks everyone for the insights, links and questi...   Jan 25 2024, 12:37 PM
brant   Thanks everyone for the insights, links and quest...   Jan 25 2024, 12:55 PM
flat4guy   L20E car. I got my paint from TouchUpDirect   Jan 25 2024, 07:27 PM
davep   Errors on the paint code plates are common. You de...   Jan 26 2024, 10:06 AM
Rikky74   Errors on the paint code plates are common. You d...   Jan 28 2024, 03:50 AM


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