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robkammer
post Jan 8 2021, 05:28 AM
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Hello all: I'm new to the 914 world and am hoping to add a 2.0 to our garage soon. I have seen references to a VIN page in the forums but can't find it on the site.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
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mepstein
post Apr 3 2024, 08:43 PM
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I’ve only seen center belts in early cars and my understanding is that only early cars had the welded mount for them. The center belt that I just sold came from an early ‘70 that I parted out and cut up. It was a one owner car (before me) but too far gone to repair. Some neat first year only details on that car. Metal round relays, two piece door cards, etc. u would have liked to save it but besides the normal east coast rust, there were panels that couldn’t easily be repaired. The front shock towers were rusted out.

The interesting thing was the original owner drove the car to work in the same town where I grew up. I even rode my bike past his workplace parking lot when I was training. Bought his car 35 years later.
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Apr 3 2024, 08:43 PM) *

I’ve only seen center belts in early cars and my understanding is that only early cars had the welded mount for them. The center belt that I just sold came from an early ‘70 that I parted out and cut up. It was a one owner car (before me) but too far gone to repair. Some neat first year only details on that car. Metal round relays, two piece door cards, etc. u would have liked to save it but besides the normal east coast rust, there were panels that couldn’t easily be repaired. The front shock towers were rusted out.

The interesting thing was the original owner drove the car to work in the same town where I grew up. I even rode my bike past his workplace parking lot when I was training. Bought his car 35 years later.


good to know. did not think i was imagining there were no mounts for those belts in my 74.

interesting how that sticker changes from the 70-72 cars and is 2 seat only from 73 on.
that had to have been a DOT thing.
i think i know why. had to bone up on 73 1.7s. checked the ones in my file.
seat belt interlock relay. somehow i thought that came in with 74s, but i see its got the interlock light on the dashboard of the 73 1.7s i have on file.
it would have been a horror to incorporate the seat belt interlock into the removable seat cushion of the so called third seat. bad enough it was hooked up to two seats. throw something down on the cushion or even lean on with your elbow and the whole buzzer bs ignition no no shebang would have gone off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

@JeffBowlsby -i think whatever the option sheet data might have said about it being an option for all cars all years might have been thrown out the window in the USA after 72 due to DOT interlock design rules.
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post Apr 3 2024, 10:16 PM
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@JeffBowlsby -i think whatever the option sheet data might have said about it being an option for all cars all years might have been thrown out the window in the USA after 72 due to DOT interlock design rules.
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I dunno. The center seat belt mounting brackets can be bolted thru the seatbelt receiver bolts on the later cars. I had it that way in my 74 for awhile. No issues. The price sheets I documented were German market cars...maybe the center seat issue did not apply there?

In 73 it was a "Seatbelt Warning System". Just a dumb 'sit on the passenger seat without being buckled up, and the dash light lights, and a buzzer sounds'.

74-76 it was the "Seatbelt interlock system" that disables the car from starting if not buckled up.

The center seatbelt had no sensors, it was just a convenience for when your honey wanted to snuggle up.
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robkammer   VIN Page   Jan 8 2021, 05:28 AM
bretth   Hello. Click the 914 info link up top. :wttc:   Jan 8 2021, 07:29 AM
robkammer   Thanks, found it! Where can I use the VIN to f...   Jan 9 2021, 09:26 AM
914werke   quick answer: you cant. The vin wont provide any o...   Jan 9 2021, 10:03 AM
davep   Well, in actual fact you could use the VIN to acqu...   Jan 13 2021, 11:55 AM
914werke   Well, in actual fact you could use the VIN to acq...   Jan 13 2021, 12:24 PM
davep   To clarify, in the U.S. without taking your car t...   Jan 15 2021, 11:30 AM
rhodyguy   :toke:   Jan 13 2021, 12:33 PM
914werke   :D Dave I suggest you cut down on the coffee. I m...   Jan 15 2021, 12:19 PM
Pat Garvey   chill   Jan 16 2021, 06:02 PM
robkammer   Hey all! The Bumblebee that I was courting was...   Feb 12 2021, 07:10 AM
davep   That is excellent Rob. I am gathering the last bit...   Feb 12 2021, 10:29 AM
robkammer   That is excellent Rob. I am gathering the last bi...   Apr 2 2022, 09:36 AM
RMF6   Hi Folks. I'm new to this forum and don't...   Apr 6 2022, 09:54 AM
FlacaProductions   David can give you initial/as-delivered info off t...   Apr 6 2022, 12:04 PM
914werke   Do you have an ad here in the members section? Ot...   Mar 4 2024, 12:51 PM
914werke   So after a couple of cocktails one eve I send off ...   Mar 28 2024, 12:05 PM
914werke   The seat cushion thing was odd. The PPS I received...   Mar 28 2024, 12:10 PM
JeffBowlsby   Rich, Option M570 was a center seat cushion as in...   Mar 28 2024, 06:54 PM
914werke   Rich, Option M570 was a center seat cushion as i...   Mar 29 2024, 01:17 PM
JeffBowlsby   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3136491' date='Ma...   Mar 29 2024, 01:23 PM
davep   All 914 (4&6) would have as standard equipment...   Mar 29 2024, 08:07 PM
914werke   Thanks for the confirmation, I learn something abo...   Mar 31 2024, 05:12 PM
wonkipop   Thanks for the confirmation, I learn something ab...   Apr 1 2024, 06:03 PM
wonkipop   as an aside. i have often looked at the parcel bi...   Apr 1 2024, 06:17 PM
wonkipop   snooped around in my files which are mostly re 74 ...   Apr 1 2024, 10:15 PM
wonkipop   i would speculate the following (with reasonable b...   Apr 1 2024, 10:40 PM
JeffBowlsby   I'm still processing the above, but here are a...   Apr 2 2024, 07:42 AM
wonkipop   I'm still processing the above, but here are ...   Apr 2 2024, 02:50 PM
wonkipop   I'm still processing the above, but here are ...   Apr 2 2024, 03:48 PM
wonkipop   I'm still processing the above, but here are ...   Apr 4 2024, 03:47 PM
wonkipop   As another little bit of info. we did find one 74 ...   Apr 2 2024, 03:16 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby this was the one and only 74 1.8 th...   Apr 2 2024, 06:37 PM
wonkipop   and i trawled the files on the 74 1.8 s. 79 exampl...   Apr 2 2024, 06:44 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby . here is some stuff i isolated out a...   Apr 2 2024, 09:59 PM
wonkipop   and here is the other one from the 75 brochure. U...   Apr 2 2024, 10:31 PM
JeffBowlsby   Checking a few archives: The center gauge console...   Apr 3 2024, 10:48 AM
wonkipop   Checking a few archives: The center gauge consol...   Apr 3 2024, 03:06 PM
gandalf_025   Going back to the center cushion questions.. Does...   Apr 3 2024, 10:57 AM
914werke   Per my OG post my PPS just showed "Seat cushi...   Apr 3 2024, 12:32 PM
JeffBowlsby   Center seatbelts were optional equipment M166 (US ...   Apr 3 2024, 02:23 PM
JeffBowlsby   Center seatbelts were optional equipment M166 (US...   Apr 3 2024, 08:26 PM
gandalf_025   Does anyone have an idea of how many cars were opt...   Apr 3 2024, 02:39 PM
wonkipop   Does anyone have an idea of how many cars were op...   Apr 3 2024, 03:25 PM
gandalf_025   From what I understand the center belt was only of...   Apr 3 2024, 05:06 PM
mepstein   I’ve only seen center belts in early cars and my...   Apr 3 2024, 08:43 PM
wonkipop   I’ve only seen center belts in early cars and m...   Apr 3 2024, 09:42 PM
JeffBowlsby   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Apr 3 2024, 10:16 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Apr 4 2024, 01:16 AM
wonkipop   i've also worked out some details of my car an...   Apr 4 2024, 04:13 PM
wonkipop   here is a mission for you @JeffBowlsby . its to ...   Apr 5 2024, 01:46 AM
JeffBowlsby   NICE. Verifying the engine tin number on the Mats...   Apr 6 2024, 09:26 PM
wonkipop   NICE. Verifying the engine tin number on the Mat...   Apr 7 2024, 04:20 PM
wonkipop   i'm pretty sure its 74 that australia introduc...   Apr 7 2024, 04:33 PM
wonkipop   found out a little bit more on japanese and austra...   Apr 9 2024, 03:29 PM


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