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[robkammer]

Hello all: I'm new to the 914 world and am hoping to add a 2.0 to our garage soon. I have seen references to a VIN page in the forums but can't find it on the site.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks

[mepstein]

I’ve only seen center belts in early cars and my understanding is that only early cars had the welded mount for them. The center belt that I just sold came from an early ‘70 that I parted out and cut up. It was a one owner car (before me) but too far gone to repair. Some neat first year only details on that car. Metal round relays, two piece door cards, etc. u would have liked to save it but besides the normal east coast rust, there were panels that couldn’t easily be repaired. The front shock towers were rusted out.

The interesting thing was the original owner drove the car to work in the same town where I grew up. I even rode my bike past his workplace parking lot when I was training. Bought his car 35 years later.

[wonkipop]

I’ve only seen center belts in early cars and my understanding is that only early cars had the welded mount for them. The center belt that I just sold came from an early ‘70 that I parted out and cut up. It was a one owner car (before me) but too far gone to repair. Some neat first year only details on that car. Metal round relays, two piece door cards, etc. u would have liked to save it but besides the normal east coast rust, there were panels that couldn’t easily be repaired. The front shock towers were rusted out.

The interesting thing was the original owner drove the car to work in the same town where I grew up. I even rode my bike past his workplace parking lot when I was training. Bought his car 35 years later.

good to know. did not think i was imagining there were no mounts for those belts in my 74.

interesting how that sticker changes from the 70-72 cars and is 2 seat only from 73 on.
that had to have been a DOT thing.
i think i know why. had to bone up on 73 1.7s. checked the ones in my file.
seat belt interlock relay. somehow i thought that came in with 74s, but i see its got the interlock light on the dashboard of the 73 1.7s i have on file.
it would have been a horror to incorporate the seat belt interlock into the removable seat cushion of the so called third seat. bad enough it was hooked up to two seats. throw something down on the cushion or even lean on with your elbow and the whole buzzer bs ignition no no shebang would have gone off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

@JeffBowlsby -i think whatever the option sheet data might have said about it being an option for all cars all years might have been thrown out the window in the USA after 72 due to DOT interlock design rules.

[JeffBowlsby]

@JeffBowlsby -i think whatever the option sheet data might have said about it being an option for all cars all years might have been thrown out the window in the USA after 72 due to DOT interlock design rules.
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I dunno. The center seat belt mounting brackets can be bolted thru the seatbelt receiver bolts on the later cars. I had it that way in my 74 for awhile. No issues. The price sheets I documented were German market cars...maybe the center seat issue did not apply there?

In 73 it was a "Seatbelt Warning System". Just a dumb 'sit on the passenger seat without being buckled up, and the dash light lights, and a buzzer sounds'.

74-76 it was the "Seatbelt interlock system" that disables the car from starting if not buckled up.

The center seatbelt had no sensors, it was just a convenience for when your honey wanted to snuggle up.

[wonkipop]

[quote name='JeffBowlsby' date='Apr 3 2024, 10:16 PM' post='3137748']
@JeffBowlsby -i think whatever the option sheet data might have said about it being an option for all cars all years might have been thrown out the window in the USA after 72 due to DOT interlock design rules.
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I dunno. The center seat belt mounting brackets can be bolted thru the seatbelt receiver bolts on the later cars. I had it that way in my 74 for awhile. No issues. The price sheets I documented were German market cars...maybe the center seat issue did not apply there?

In 73 it was a "Seatbelt Warning System". Just a dumb 'sit on the passenger seat without being buckled up, and the dash light lights, and a buzzer sounds'.

74-76 it was the "Seatbelt interlock system" that disables the car from starting if not buckled up.

The center seatbelt had no sensors, it was just a convenience for when your honey wanted to snuggle up.
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aha - the 73 version sounds a bit more harmless than the 74.
that seatbelt interlock and its relay caused me a lot of pain 30 years ago.
i was very happy when i had it taken out of circulation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

hey i have thought about that wiring loom you mentjoned with capacity for guages in 73 and the penny dropped while i was taking a train ride to one of my job sites today.
i think you might have just explained why the 1,7 engines only have two painted code numbers on them in contrast to the 4 codes on the 1.8 engines in 74 and 75.
i'll post the theory later after i have reduced it in words to something simple.
but you got my brain turning it over and i have had a light bulb moment.
might be a mad lightbulb moment but it did light up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)