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SCCA catagory for my 914-4, racing catagory 914 |
FastFroggy |
Apr 29 2024, 12:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 63 Joined: 27-November 15 From: South East MI Member No.: 19,415 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Hello all,
I previously ran HPDE events and autocrosses prior to my engine issue. I am now wrapping up my 914-4 rebuild and just passed my SCCA Licensing Class. Really enjoy running the car. Would like to see if there is an SCCA class I can fit it, but looks tough. Looking for guidance on the best path forward given my stated priorities: 1. SCCA regional level minimum 2. Extent of further modification needed 3. Relative competitiveness in class My car: a. 1973 914-4 with up to date safety items(Cage, extinguisher, seats, harness, etc) b. 2.0l stock internals c. race headers d. large bore twin carbs e. 5 lug conversion f. 911 1973 rotors g. 911s calipers front h. fiberglass fender flares Please PM me with feedback. Thanks, GregM |
GregAmy |
May 8 2024, 06:53 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,397 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
The whole open-top/closed-top thing is a PITA and SCCA refuses to clearly define it. I asked last Fall for a explicit definition to be added to the GCR Technical glossary but it was denied; I suspect it's because of some conflicting prep regs (which is why I requested it) and they don't want to step into that pile.
The only reference I can find to the intent is GCR 9.3.18, Driver's Restraint System, "Arm restraints are required on all open cars including open Targa tops, sunroofs and T-tops." This implies, but does not define, that a targa car with the top off is "open" (which requires arm restraints) and with it on it's "closed" (which requires a window net). GCR 9.3.17 refers to Detachable Panels/Sunroofs, implying that targa tops must be removed, however it also states, "Movable or removable metal or composite panels in the roof may be either removed or positively secured in the closed position." But then, "Any openings in the roof resulting from the removal of a panel must be covered..." "Well, which is it, young feller? You want I should freeze or get down on the ground?" (name that movie reference...) The Production regs allow, but do not require, cutting of the windshield and removal of the rear glass (9.1.5.E.9.a.8.A, "Open cars may remove the windshield glass, door window glass, quarter window glass, rear glass, vent glass...If removed, a replacement windshield must be installed...) This is the regs that was intorturated back in the 70s to "replace" the windshield and frame with the now-well-known "Ginther Windshield". If would seem, by general practice, that SCCA thus considers targa-top-equipped cars as open top for the purpose of this reg, as no one that I'm aware of has ever been bounced for Ginthering a Porsche 914. 'Specially since Ginther was probably the first one to do that. So if you pop the targa top, whether or not you choose not to cut the windshield, then you're an open car (and its associated regs requirements). Unsurprisingly, the GT regs say nothing about open top versus closed top cars. The inconsistency is palpable...and frustrating. But GT regs are so permissive now that it doesn't matter, no one will care. Frankly, unless you're willing to go the whole Ginther route, it's preferable from an aerodynamics perspective to leave the roof on. But given the really bad aero we have with that rear roof deck, if you get serious about aero you'd want to go full Ginther. I think a Ginthered 914 looks cool. I keep wanting to do that to mine but Chris keeps talking me out of it...and points me to the chassis he has for sale that's already done. EDIT: if you're interested in the aero, this is an interesting discussion: http://www.cassidy-online.com/porsche914/a...aids/index.html |
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