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> Amp wiring, My amp is protecting itself for some reason
CCE
post May 18 2024, 10:25 PM
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Just installed a Bluetooth amp to my car, to clean the dashboard with a blank faceplate, I ran a cable direct to my battery but I am getting the amp to shut down protecting maybe because of an overload since it doesn’t get energy from the regulated board I think. Can anyone confirm if my assumption is correct or if my regulator is not regulating correctly.

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post May 19 2024, 03:55 PM
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Here's some more wood to throw on the fire.

If your voltage regulator checks out & your grounds are kosher, as previously discussed, I would again suggest that the amplifier is bad. If there is alternator noise while driving, then I would also suggest that the amp's internal PI filter is bad & leaking to ground (assuming it has one) due to a bad capacitor. External PI filters were used in the old days to eliminate alternator noise. They consist of an inductor in series with the hot input along with two capacitors on either side of the inductor which run from the hot input to ground. An intermittent leaking capacitor will short to ground & perhaps blow a fuse depending upon how bad the short is. I've run into this problem before with OLD audio gear.

Again, just some more potential BS to add to this discussion.

Your wiring looks very clean. Are your loudspeakers hooked up independently or in parallel? Series would be a no no from a sound quality perspective, but this will decrease the load. The lower the total resistance, as in the case of a parallel connection, the larger the load. I suppose this is a moot point since the system works fine when the car isn't running.

Ergo you have a defective amp. They don't test these things prior to shipping. I would return it for a new one. Can you contact Blaupunkt for additional support?
Does the thing come with a schematic?

Finally, what happens when you disconnect the speakers? Can you see if the amp shuts down while hitting the gas pedal?

Finally again, this is a Class D amplifier. They are prone to power supply issues.

From the internet:

"Power-Related Problems:

Power issues are another common concern. These can range from the amplifier failing to turn on to problems with maintaining consistent power output during use.
Causes can include faulty power supplies, inadequate power sources, or internal component failures, such as issues with the power management circuitry."

https://brzhifi.com/blogs/news/solving-comm...troubleshooting

Hmmm... Is the amp getting hot & going into thermal overload & subsequent shut down?

Call me at 408-802-0155 if you wish to discuss this in greater detail. Leave a message if I don't answer.

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post May 19 2024, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(windforfun @ May 19 2024, 03:55 PM) *

Here's some more wood to throw on the fire.

If your voltage regulator checks out & your grounds are kosher, as previously discussed, I would again suggest that the amplifier is bad. If there is alternator noise while driving, then I would also suggest that the amp's internal PI filter is bad & leaking to ground (assuming it has one) due to a bad capacitor. External PI filters were used in the old days to eliminate alternator noise. They consist of an inductor in series with the hot input along with two capacitors on either side of the inductor which run from the hot input to ground. An intermittent leaking capacitor will short to ground & perhaps blow a fuse depending upon how bad the short is. I've run into this problem before with OLD audio gear.

Again, just some more potential BS to add to this discussion.

Your wiring looks very clean. Are your loudspeakers hooked up independently or in parallel? Series would be a no no from a sound quality perspective, but this will decrease the load. The lower the total resistance, as in the case of a parallel connection, the larger the load. I suppose this is a moot point since the system works fine when the car isn't running.

Ergo you have a defective amp. They don't test these things prior to shipping. I would return it for a new one. Can you contact Blaupunkt for additional support?
Does the thing come with a schematic?

Finally, what happens when you disconnect the speakers? Can you see if the amp shuts down while hitting the gas pedal?

Finally again, this is a Class D amplifier. They are prone to power supply issues.

From the internet:

"Power-Related Problems:

Power issues are another common concern. These can range from the amplifier failing to turn on to problems with maintaining consistent power output during use.
Causes can include faulty power supplies, inadequate power sources, or internal component failures, such as issues with the power management circuitry."

https://brzhifi.com/blogs/news/solving-comm...troubleshooting

Hmmm... Is the amp getting hot & going into thermal overload & subsequent shut down?

Call me at 408-802-0155 if you wish to discuss this in greater detail. Leave a message if I don't answer.

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Speakers are connected individually not in parallel
It does shut down on acceleration
I need to verify my regulator I think it all points that direction
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QUOTE(CCE @ May 19 2024, 08:20 PM) *

It does shut down on acceleration


To me, that suggests that something is moving and shorting out. Once you have double-checked that your system voltage isn't spiking to 16V, start wiggling everything.

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CCE   Amp wiring   May 18 2024, 10:25 PM
Spoke   Just installed a Bluetooth amp What is the part...   May 18 2024, 11:02 PM
technicalninja   What's up with the single ground to chassis on...   May 18 2024, 11:47 PM
Superhawk996   What's up with the single ground to chassis o...   May 19 2024, 07:29 AM
Superhawk996   Without details of what amp you’re using and how...   May 19 2024, 07:24 AM
windforfun   Previously used amp? New amp? If so, it might be...   May 19 2024, 10:35 AM
technicalninja   What's up @Superhawk996 ? Do you just argue ...   May 19 2024, 12:23 PM
Superhawk996   What's up [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/b...   May 19 2024, 12:58 PM
Front yard mechanic   Get a 15 year old to figure it out they know how t...   May 19 2024, 12:48 PM
CCE   Get a 15 year old to figure it out they know how ...   May 19 2024, 01:29 PM
technicalninja   But it MIGHT help the entire electrical system... ...   May 19 2024, 01:41 PM
CCE   Here a pick of the dash. And speakers   May 19 2024, 01:41 PM
Superhawk996   @CCE I’m trying to find Blaupunkt documentati...   May 19 2024, 01:50 PM
CCE   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   May 19 2024, 02:01 PM
Superhawk996   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?...   May 19 2024, 02:06 PM
CCE   [quote name='CCE' post='3146162' date='May 19 202...   May 19 2024, 02:11 PM
CCE   [quote name='CCE' post='3146162' date='May 19 202...   May 19 2024, 02:17 PM
Superhawk996   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   May 19 2024, 02:44 PM
CCE   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   May 19 2024, 09:12 PM
Chris914n6   With the current info sounds like the speaker wire...   May 19 2024, 03:55 PM
windforfun   Here's some more wood to throw on the fire. I...   May 19 2024, 03:55 PM
CCE   Here's some more wood to throw on the fire. ...   May 19 2024, 09:20 PM
Dave_Darling   It does shut down on acceleration To me, that ...   May 20 2024, 06:16 PM
technicalninja   Edit: This was supposed to fall under Superhawk...   May 19 2024, 04:08 PM
CCE   Edit: This was supposed to fall under Superhawk...   May 19 2024, 09:22 PM
windforfun   BTW, Sony never tested their Trinitron TVs prior t...   May 19 2024, 06:54 PM
CCE   BTW, Sony never tested their Trinitron TVs prior ...   May 19 2024, 09:26 PM
Spoke   I went looking for the manual for this amp to see ...   May 20 2024, 04:34 AM
CCE   I went looking for the manual for this amp to see...   May 20 2024, 08:40 AM
CCE   [quote name='Spoke' post='3146280' date='May 20 2...   May 21 2024, 08:04 PM
windforfun   BTW, those power ratings are most likely peak powe...   May 20 2024, 09:35 AM
windforfun   I'm glad that those output power specification...   May 21 2024, 08:50 PM
rjames   When I first acquired my car the PO had installed ...   May 22 2024, 09:59 AM
CCE   Just got a new hella regulator from Autoatlanta…...   May 26 2024, 12:44 PM
windforfun   Just got a new hella regulator from Autoatlantaâ€...   May 26 2024, 02:51 PM
Chris914n6   Just got a new hella regulator from Autoatlantaâ€...   May 27 2024, 01:26 PM
Freezin 914   I am no expert, but have installed a few stereos i...   May 26 2024, 12:57 PM
CCE   I am no expert, but have installed a few stereos ...   May 27 2024, 08:12 AM
Superhawk996   With respect to the retaining screws, they need to...   May 26 2024, 08:04 PM
CCE   With respect to the retaining screws, they need t...   May 27 2024, 08:17 AM
930cabman   Glad you got her fixed. I just came upon this thre...   May 27 2024, 09:18 AM
CCE   Glad you got her fixed. I just came upon this thr...   May 27 2024, 10:05 AM
CCE   To all who replied to my questions, I want to than...   Jun 2 2024, 05:43 PM
windforfun   "I really have very limited talent, and just ...   Jun 2 2024, 08:44 PM


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