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CCE
post May 18 2024, 10:25 PM
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Just installed a Bluetooth amp to my car, to clean the dashboard with a blank faceplate, I ran a cable direct to my battery but I am getting the amp to shut down protecting maybe because of an overload since it doesn’t get energy from the regulated board I think. Can anyone confirm if my assumption is correct or if my regulator is not regulating correctly.

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post May 20 2024, 04:34 AM
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I went looking for the manual for this amp to see what the specs were and found these 1 star ratings on Amazon. Not saying anything about the product; just reading comments. Lots of unhappy people.

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Lee S.
1.0 out of 5 stars Poor, Unsupported Product…That is defective.
Reviewed in the United States on September 17, 2022
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Finally got around to installing this just to find out it will not power on. I double checked my input voltage and it was receiving 12 volts, but the unit is dead. The instructions are practically non-existent and provide no help whatsoever. If you do an internet search, there are several post about how the company doesn’t even have this listed under them. Just stay away from it. Absolute waste of money.

Update…finally got it to work. Because the instructions are very poor and lacking in detail for install, it does not mention to wire ignition hot to the “rem” terminal to turnthe unit on. The sound is ok, but not loud when cranked up. Still not a recommendation.
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BestTech
1.0 out of 5 stars Bad batch
Reviewed in the United States on March 17, 2024
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I have bought and installed multiple of the “BT” version of this amp and love them. I put them in classic cars.
Apparently the “BT” models are all gone and are now shipping the “BT PRO” only. So even though this listing doesnt say PRO , thats what you get. I have made 3 orders so far of this BTPRO model and each one has had the same issue , iphones wont connect and stay connected. It keeps dropping the Bluetooth immediately upon playing a song.
Upon my return third bad unit I called Blaupunkt tech support and they said theres a bad batch if them and that I could mail my unit to them and they would send me an updated unit so thats what I am going to do. All three of my bad ones came from this amazon seller so unfortunately they probably have more of these bad ones which need to be returned to Blaupunkt. So if you plan to buy one , be prepared for it to potentially not work with iphone and need to return it or send it to the manufacturer.
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1.0 out of 5 stars 1 of 3 worked
Reviewed in the United States on February 12, 2024
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Read entire review- So i had purchased one of these amps to use in a classic car- it worked flawlessly and connected everytime as soon as you turned the key to give the signal to pair with my iPhone/ i sold the car and the amp went with it

I then got another car and i liked the amp so much i purchased another one- installed it and noticed it now read Amp1840btPRO in the Bluetooth settings- my first one did not have the pro in the title- it was having a hardtime connecting to my phone- when it did connect it would play audio for about 2 seconds and then drop the signal, i could not get it to play more than that- so i figured it was defective- i returned it and got another one- then replacement would would also only play for 2 seconds and then drop the bluetooth signal, super bummed as now i need to find another Bluetooth amp- i would not try a 3rd as something definitely changed since my first one- pretty much the new batches do not function correctly unfortunately
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Michael Bowick
1.0 out of 5 stars Disappointed
Reviewed in the United States on March 30, 2024
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The Bluetooth would not stay connected, and the amp continuously would cut off for no reason. I was highly disappointed in the product. There is no videos to help troubleshooting the issues nor anyway to get help on the issues. I would not recommend using this amp.
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shane e.
1.0 out of 5 stars HORRIBLE AMP!!!
Reviewed in the United States on May 20, 2023
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Amp seemed ok out of the box...but quickly found it to be a huge piece of junk.

the antenna wouldn't stay tight, if you turn it one direct or the other, the base nut unscrews and everything just flops around.

This thing does not produce the power it claims, didn't expect the high numbers, but did atleast expect 50w x4.

Bluetooth connected easy, and always worked...but the amp has some severe limitations.

One day while trying to adjust the front speakers to actually produce sound from the amp it poped and shut off forever...i had maybe 10 hours of total use out of the amp...and it couldn't even push a pair of tweeters and 4x10's...

I bought an alpine amp and and RCA to usb c cable and these speakers are quite nice now.
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Matt H.
1.0 out of 5 stars Bluetooth wouldn’t stay connected.
Reviewed in the United States on December 17, 2023
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Bought it to install in a classic car and be able to pair my phone via Bluetooth. It would play less than 3 seconds and then disconnect and then reconnect. Antenna was connected and phone works on all other Bluetooth sources. Wasted time wiring this thing up for it not to work. Unimpressed to say the least.
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Mike
1.0 out of 5 stars Drops Bluetooth within seconds of playing
Reviewed in the United States on March 26, 2024
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Don’t buy this junk. Can’t return it
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Willee
1.0 out of 5 stars Defective when I got it
Reviewed in the United States on February 2, 2022
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UPDATE July 2022:: Since I bought it last November 2021 and it was defective on arrival. I sent an email to the manufacturer with a copy of my receipt. So 8 months later they have Not sent an email or tried to contact me in any way. DO NOT BUY - NO WARRANTY!!
It took a month before I got around to installing it when I noticed the bluetooth antenna mount was loose. Tried to tighten it up and was only twisting wires inside it instead. Powered up the amp after install and the left channel is out (yes I checked it). Then after running for just a minute it would shut off. So basically I got a amp that shorted out from the factory and it's too late to return this boat anchor!
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1.0 out of 5 stars No bluetooth
Reviewed in the United States on January 5, 2024
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Very disappointed . Bluetooth will not stay connected even with phone with phone beside Unit . Sending back !!
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Chops101
1.0 out of 5 stars Not True BT stereo
Reviewed in the United States on January 10, 2023
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This is not a bad amp for the price, but I needed to use it exclusively for the BT adapting feature as I use iPhone exclusively for music streaming in my classic car.
While it pairs well, and the sound is plenty loud but not much bass, it is mono when BT paired.
That was the deal breaker, it's mono. And I tested it / validated that aspect. Had to send it back and went with a separate BT adapter and separate amp.
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post May 20 2024, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(Spoke @ May 20 2024, 04:34 AM) *

I went looking for the manual for this amp to see what the specs were and found these 1 star ratings on Amazon. Not saying anything about the product; just reading comments. Lots of unhappy people.

From the United States
Lee S.
1.0 out of 5 stars Poor, Unsupported Product…That is defective.
Reviewed in the United States on September 17, 2022
Verified Purchase
Finally got around to installing this just to find out it will not power on. I double checked my input voltage and it was receiving 12 volts, but the unit is dead. The instructions are practically non-existent and provide no help whatsoever. If you do an internet search, there are several post about how the company doesn’t even have this listed under them. Just stay away from it. Absolute waste of money.

Update…finally got it to work. Because the instructions are very poor and lacking in detail for install, it does not mention to wire ignition hot to the “rem” terminal to turnthe unit on. The sound is ok, but not loud when cranked up. Still not a recommendation.
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BestTech
1.0 out of 5 stars Bad batch
Reviewed in the United States on March 17, 2024
Verified Purchase
I have bought and installed multiple of the “BT” version of this amp and love them. I put them in classic cars.
Apparently the “BT” models are all gone and are now shipping the “BT PRO” only. So even though this listing doesnt say PRO , thats what you get. I have made 3 orders so far of this BTPRO model and each one has had the same issue , iphones wont connect and stay connected. It keeps dropping the Bluetooth immediately upon playing a song.
Upon my return third bad unit I called Blaupunkt tech support and they said theres a bad batch if them and that I could mail my unit to them and they would send me an updated unit so thats what I am going to do. All three of my bad ones came from this amazon seller so unfortunately they probably have more of these bad ones which need to be returned to Blaupunkt. So if you plan to buy one , be prepared for it to potentially not work with iphone and need to return it or send it to the manufacturer.
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mark
1.0 out of 5 stars 1 of 3 worked
Reviewed in the United States on February 12, 2024
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Read entire review- So i had purchased one of these amps to use in a classic car- it worked flawlessly and connected everytime as soon as you turned the key to give the signal to pair with my iPhone/ i sold the car and the amp went with it

I then got another car and i liked the amp so much i purchased another one- installed it and noticed it now read Amp1840btPRO in the Bluetooth settings- my first one did not have the pro in the title- it was having a hardtime connecting to my phone- when it did connect it would play audio for about 2 seconds and then drop the signal, i could not get it to play more than that- so i figured it was defective- i returned it and got another one- then replacement would would also only play for 2 seconds and then drop the bluetooth signal, super bummed as now i need to find another Bluetooth amp- i would not try a 3rd as something definitely changed since my first one- pretty much the new batches do not function correctly unfortunately
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Michael Bowick
1.0 out of 5 stars Disappointed
Reviewed in the United States on March 30, 2024
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The Bluetooth would not stay connected, and the amp continuously would cut off for no reason. I was highly disappointed in the product. There is no videos to help troubleshooting the issues nor anyway to get help on the issues. I would not recommend using this amp.
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shane e.
1.0 out of 5 stars HORRIBLE AMP!!!
Reviewed in the United States on May 20, 2023
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Amp seemed ok out of the box...but quickly found it to be a huge piece of junk.

the antenna wouldn't stay tight, if you turn it one direct or the other, the base nut unscrews and everything just flops around.

This thing does not produce the power it claims, didn't expect the high numbers, but did atleast expect 50w x4.

Bluetooth connected easy, and always worked...but the amp has some severe limitations.

One day while trying to adjust the front speakers to actually produce sound from the amp it poped and shut off forever...i had maybe 10 hours of total use out of the amp...and it couldn't even push a pair of tweeters and 4x10's...

I bought an alpine amp and and RCA to usb c cable and these speakers are quite nice now.
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Matt H.
1.0 out of 5 stars Bluetooth wouldn’t stay connected.
Reviewed in the United States on December 17, 2023
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Bought it to install in a classic car and be able to pair my phone via Bluetooth. It would play less than 3 seconds and then disconnect and then reconnect. Antenna was connected and phone works on all other Bluetooth sources. Wasted time wiring this thing up for it not to work. Unimpressed to say the least.
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Mike
1.0 out of 5 stars Drops Bluetooth within seconds of playing
Reviewed in the United States on March 26, 2024
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Don’t buy this junk. Can’t return it
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Willee
1.0 out of 5 stars Defective when I got it
Reviewed in the United States on February 2, 2022
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UPDATE July 2022:: Since I bought it last November 2021 and it was defective on arrival. I sent an email to the manufacturer with a copy of my receipt. So 8 months later they have Not sent an email or tried to contact me in any way. DO NOT BUY - NO WARRANTY!!
It took a month before I got around to installing it when I noticed the bluetooth antenna mount was loose. Tried to tighten it up and was only twisting wires inside it instead. Powered up the amp after install and the left channel is out (yes I checked it). Then after running for just a minute it would shut off. So basically I got a amp that shorted out from the factory and it's too late to return this boat anchor!
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Amazon Customer
1.0 out of 5 stars No bluetooth
Reviewed in the United States on January 5, 2024
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Very disappointed . Bluetooth will not stay connected even with phone with phone beside Unit . Sending back !!
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Chops101
1.0 out of 5 stars Not True BT stereo
Reviewed in the United States on January 10, 2023
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This is not a bad amp for the price, but I needed to use it exclusively for the BT adapting feature as I use iPhone exclusively for music streaming in my classic car.
While it pairs well, and the sound is plenty loud but not much bass, it is mono when BT paired.
That was the deal breaker, it's mono. And I tested it / validated that aspect. Had to send it back and went with a separate BT adapter and separate amp.


Thanks I red most of them, the biggest complaint was on a short delivery of power from 100w to some 65w x4, they lost a lot of power to the advertised data, which in my case was not an issue, and a gain from my old car stereo that was 40w per channel, just want to hear, not share with the neighbors.
And also it connects really well to my iPhone, surprisingly well. So I just need to sort the problem which I think is in my power regulator, and we will do fine.
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post May 21 2024, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(CCE @ May 20 2024, 08:40 AM) *

QUOTE(Spoke @ May 20 2024, 04:34 AM) *

I went looking for the manual for this amp to see what the specs were and found these 1 star ratings on Amazon. Not saying anything about the product; just reading comments. Lots of unhappy people.

From the United States
Lee S.
1.0 out of 5 stars Poor, Unsupported Product…That is defective.
Reviewed in the United States on September 17, 2022
Verified Purchase
Finally got around to installing this just to find out it will not power on. I double checked my input voltage and it was receiving 12 volts, but the unit is dead. The instructions are practically non-existent and provide no help whatsoever. If you do an internet search, there are several post about how the company doesn’t even have this listed under them. Just stay away from it. Absolute waste of money.

Update…finally got it to work. Because the instructions are very poor and lacking in detail for install, it does not mention to wire ignition hot to the “rem” terminal to turnthe unit on. The sound is ok, but not loud when cranked up. Still not a recommendation.
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BestTech
1.0 out of 5 stars Bad batch
Reviewed in the United States on March 17, 2024
Verified Purchase
I have bought and installed multiple of the “BT” version of this amp and love them. I put them in classic cars.
Apparently the “BT” models are all gone and are now shipping the “BT PRO” only. So even though this listing doesnt say PRO , thats what you get. I have made 3 orders so far of this BTPRO model and each one has had the same issue , iphones wont connect and stay connected. It keeps dropping the Bluetooth immediately upon playing a song.
Upon my return third bad unit I called Blaupunkt tech support and they said theres a bad batch if them and that I could mail my unit to them and they would send me an updated unit so thats what I am going to do. All three of my bad ones came from this amazon seller so unfortunately they probably have more of these bad ones which need to be returned to Blaupunkt. So if you plan to buy one , be prepared for it to potentially not work with iphone and need to return it or send it to the manufacturer.
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mark
1.0 out of 5 stars 1 of 3 worked
Reviewed in the United States on February 12, 2024
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Read entire review- So i had purchased one of these amps to use in a classic car- it worked flawlessly and connected everytime as soon as you turned the key to give the signal to pair with my iPhone/ i sold the car and the amp went with it

I then got another car and i liked the amp so much i purchased another one- installed it and noticed it now read Amp1840btPRO in the Bluetooth settings- my first one did not have the pro in the title- it was having a hardtime connecting to my phone- when it did connect it would play audio for about 2 seconds and then drop the signal, i could not get it to play more than that- so i figured it was defective- i returned it and got another one- then replacement would would also only play for 2 seconds and then drop the bluetooth signal, super bummed as now i need to find another Bluetooth amp- i would not try a 3rd as something definitely changed since my first one- pretty much the new batches do not function correctly unfortunately
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Michael Bowick
1.0 out of 5 stars Disappointed
Reviewed in the United States on March 30, 2024
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The Bluetooth would not stay connected, and the amp continuously would cut off for no reason. I was highly disappointed in the product. There is no videos to help troubleshooting the issues nor anyway to get help on the issues. I would not recommend using this amp.
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shane e.
1.0 out of 5 stars HORRIBLE AMP!!!
Reviewed in the United States on May 20, 2023
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Amp seemed ok out of the box...but quickly found it to be a huge piece of junk.

the antenna wouldn't stay tight, if you turn it one direct or the other, the base nut unscrews and everything just flops around.

This thing does not produce the power it claims, didn't expect the high numbers, but did atleast expect 50w x4.

Bluetooth connected easy, and always worked...but the amp has some severe limitations.

One day while trying to adjust the front speakers to actually produce sound from the amp it poped and shut off forever...i had maybe 10 hours of total use out of the amp...and it couldn't even push a pair of tweeters and 4x10's...

I bought an alpine amp and and RCA to usb c cable and these speakers are quite nice now.
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Matt H.
1.0 out of 5 stars Bluetooth wouldn’t stay connected.
Reviewed in the United States on December 17, 2023
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Bought it to install in a classic car and be able to pair my phone via Bluetooth. It would play less than 3 seconds and then disconnect and then reconnect. Antenna was connected and phone works on all other Bluetooth sources. Wasted time wiring this thing up for it not to work. Unimpressed to say the least.
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Mike
1.0 out of 5 stars Drops Bluetooth within seconds of playing
Reviewed in the United States on March 26, 2024
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Don’t buy this junk. Can’t return it
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Willee
1.0 out of 5 stars Defective when I got it
Reviewed in the United States on February 2, 2022
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UPDATE July 2022:: Since I bought it last November 2021 and it was defective on arrival. I sent an email to the manufacturer with a copy of my receipt. So 8 months later they have Not sent an email or tried to contact me in any way. DO NOT BUY - NO WARRANTY!!
It took a month before I got around to installing it when I noticed the bluetooth antenna mount was loose. Tried to tighten it up and was only twisting wires inside it instead. Powered up the amp after install and the left channel is out (yes I checked it). Then after running for just a minute it would shut off. So basically I got a amp that shorted out from the factory and it's too late to return this boat anchor!
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1.0 out of 5 stars No bluetooth
Reviewed in the United States on January 5, 2024
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Very disappointed . Bluetooth will not stay connected even with phone with phone beside Unit . Sending back !!
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Chops101
1.0 out of 5 stars Not True BT stereo
Reviewed in the United States on January 10, 2023
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This is not a bad amp for the price, but I needed to use it exclusively for the BT adapting feature as I use iPhone exclusively for music streaming in my classic car.
While it pairs well, and the sound is plenty loud but not much bass, it is mono when BT paired.
That was the deal breaker, it's mono. And I tested it / validated that aspect. Had to send it back and went with a separate BT adapter and separate amp.


Thanks I red most of them, the biggest complaint was on a short delivery of power from 100w to some 65w x4, they lost a lot of power to the advertised data, which in my case was not an issue, and a gain from my old car stereo that was 40w per channel, just want to hear, not share with the neighbors.
And also it connects really well to my iPhone, surprisingly well. So I just need to sort the problem which I think is in my power regulator, and we will do fine.
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All connections ar good and tight, (I did the shake test as mentioned, thanks) I ordered a regulator from Autoatlanta, I don’t trust my regulator anymore, and regarding the amp specs. Here is a photo of the very poor brochure.
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CCE   Amp wiring   May 18 2024, 10:25 PM
Spoke   Just installed a Bluetooth amp What is the part...   May 18 2024, 11:02 PM
technicalninja   What's up with the single ground to chassis on...   May 18 2024, 11:47 PM
Superhawk996   What's up with the single ground to chassis o...   May 19 2024, 07:29 AM
Superhawk996   Without details of what amp you’re using and how...   May 19 2024, 07:24 AM
windforfun   Previously used amp? New amp? If so, it might be...   May 19 2024, 10:35 AM
technicalninja   What's up @Superhawk996 ? Do you just argue ...   May 19 2024, 12:23 PM
Superhawk996   What's up [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/b...   May 19 2024, 12:58 PM
Front yard mechanic   Get a 15 year old to figure it out they know how t...   May 19 2024, 12:48 PM
CCE   Get a 15 year old to figure it out they know how ...   May 19 2024, 01:29 PM
technicalninja   But it MIGHT help the entire electrical system... ...   May 19 2024, 01:41 PM
CCE   Here a pick of the dash. And speakers   May 19 2024, 01:41 PM
Superhawk996   @CCE I’m trying to find Blaupunkt documentati...   May 19 2024, 01:50 PM
CCE   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   May 19 2024, 02:01 PM
Superhawk996   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?...   May 19 2024, 02:06 PM
CCE   [quote name='CCE' post='3146162' date='May 19 202...   May 19 2024, 02:11 PM
CCE   [quote name='CCE' post='3146162' date='May 19 202...   May 19 2024, 02:17 PM
Superhawk996   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   May 19 2024, 02:44 PM
CCE   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   May 19 2024, 09:12 PM
Chris914n6   With the current info sounds like the speaker wire...   May 19 2024, 03:55 PM
windforfun   Here's some more wood to throw on the fire. I...   May 19 2024, 03:55 PM
CCE   Here's some more wood to throw on the fire. ...   May 19 2024, 09:20 PM
Dave_Darling   It does shut down on acceleration To me, that ...   May 20 2024, 06:16 PM
technicalninja   Edit: This was supposed to fall under Superhawk...   May 19 2024, 04:08 PM
CCE   Edit: This was supposed to fall under Superhawk...   May 19 2024, 09:22 PM
windforfun   BTW, Sony never tested their Trinitron TVs prior t...   May 19 2024, 06:54 PM
CCE   BTW, Sony never tested their Trinitron TVs prior ...   May 19 2024, 09:26 PM
Spoke   I went looking for the manual for this amp to see ...   May 20 2024, 04:34 AM
CCE   I went looking for the manual for this amp to see...   May 20 2024, 08:40 AM
CCE   [quote name='Spoke' post='3146280' date='May 20 2...   May 21 2024, 08:04 PM
windforfun   BTW, those power ratings are most likely peak powe...   May 20 2024, 09:35 AM
windforfun   I'm glad that those output power specification...   May 21 2024, 08:50 PM
rjames   When I first acquired my car the PO had installed ...   May 22 2024, 09:59 AM
CCE   Just got a new hella regulator from Autoatlanta…...   May 26 2024, 12:44 PM
windforfun   Just got a new hella regulator from Autoatlanta...   May 26 2024, 02:51 PM
Chris914n6   Just got a new hella regulator from Autoatlanta...   May 27 2024, 01:26 PM
Freezin 914   I am no expert, but have installed a few stereos i...   May 26 2024, 12:57 PM
CCE   I am no expert, but have installed a few stereos ...   May 27 2024, 08:12 AM
Superhawk996   With respect to the retaining screws, they need to...   May 26 2024, 08:04 PM
CCE   With respect to the retaining screws, they need t...   May 27 2024, 08:17 AM
930cabman   Glad you got her fixed. I just came upon this thre...   May 27 2024, 09:18 AM
CCE   Glad you got her fixed. I just came upon this thr...   May 27 2024, 10:05 AM
CCE   To all who replied to my questions, I want to than...   Jun 2 2024, 05:43 PM
windforfun   "I really have very limited talent, and just ...   Jun 2 2024, 08:44 PM


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