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post Jun 3 2024, 07:54 AM
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Sounds like a great way for EV's to pay their fair share
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post Jun 3 2024, 11:39 AM
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From California’s own Road Charge site


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post Jun 3 2024, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(burton73 @ Jun 3 2024, 10:39 AM) *

From California’s own Road Charge site


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Just a little research on that as it makes no sense, "The standard calculation is that road wear goes up as the square (conservatively; fourth power is well documented for heavy trucks) of the weight. So the Hummer (9500 lbs) causes about 100 times the damage of a Prius (3000 lbs). Even at the conservative second power, it causes 10 times as much damage. Heavier vehicles of course also require that bridges be built for heavier loads, increasing their built cost as well as maintenance."

according to this articlehttps://gettingaroundsac.blog/2023/12/16/road-charge/

Hard to swallow that it would be the same. Easier to believe 10x or even 100x imo
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post Jun 3 2024, 01:36 PM
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Hard to swallow that it would be the same

I think what they are really trying to say here is that anything under 10k pounds is peanuts compared to a loaded semi truck (40k-80k).
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 3 2024, 01:36 PM) *

QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Jun 3 2024, 11:18 AM) *

Hard to swallow that it would be the same

I think what they are really trying to say here is that anything under 10k pounds is peanuts compared to a loaded semi truck (40k-80k).
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yeah

road crews are always out fixing the left hand lanes of the interstates here.
(read that as right hand lane in your mirror world).
they get pounded into destruction by the semis.

as an aside the cops down here are pushing for bikes and electric scooters to also pay a road use registration fee. ok they are pretty light weight, but the argument is that portion of the road dedicated to bike lanes etc still requires maintenance.
the rise of the dedicated bike lane has opened new cost obligations and cars can't use it.
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73-914   Calafornia Road Charge   Jun 3 2024, 07:54 AM
SirAndy   https://dot.ca.gov/programs/road-charge :shades2...   Jun 3 2024, 09:02 AM
Optimusglen   edit - nevermind, found the other page with FAQs.   Jun 3 2024, 09:29 AM
windforfun   This reminds me of the old NY State Thruway. Your...   Jun 3 2024, 09:41 AM
nathanxnathan   I think a better idea would be to make weight of a...   Jun 3 2024, 10:22 AM
Montreal914   Without getting political, it makes sense to me; y...   Jun 3 2024, 10:29 AM
Steve   They have been talking about this in CA for quite ...   Jun 3 2024, 10:44 AM
mb911   That’s sounds like a good thing.   Jun 3 2024, 10:48 AM
flipb   Virginia implemented something like California...   Jun 3 2024, 11:14 AM
burton73   From California’s own Road Charge site Best B...   Jun 3 2024, 11:39 AM
nathanxnathan   From California’s own Road Charge site Best ...   Jun 3 2024, 12:18 PM
SirAndy   Hard to swallow that it would be the same I thin...   Jun 3 2024, 01:36 PM
wonkipop   Hard to swallow that it would be the same I thi...   Jun 3 2024, 01:44 PM
nathanxnathan   Hard to swallow that it would be the same I thi...   Jun 3 2024, 03:02 PM
bkrantz   [quote name='SirAndy' post='3148965' date='Jun 3 ...   Jun 3 2024, 06:51 PM
mate914   [quote name='SirAndy' post='3148965' date='Jun 3 ...   Jun 4 2024, 05:08 AM
VaccaRabite   Have any idea what that would do to your price f...   Jun 4 2024, 08:56 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='mate914' post='3149036' date='Jun 4 ...   Jun 4 2024, 10:47 AM
VaccaRabite   [quote name='mate914' post='3149036' date='Jun 4...   Jun 4 2024, 10:57 AM
VaccaRabite   Hah. If adopted nationally I could see this absol...   Jun 3 2024, 12:01 PM
technicalninja   The interesting data would be the percentage of ro...   Jun 3 2024, 12:15 PM
wonkipop   the govt. just attempted such an EV levy in my sta...   Jun 3 2024, 01:34 PM
Montreal914   :lol: What next, sidewalk and pedestrians? Dogs?   Jun 3 2024, 01:48 PM
wonkipop   :lol: What next, sidewalk and pedestrian? Dogs? ...   Jun 3 2024, 01:58 PM
Shivers   its illegal for a cat to be outside the house --...   Jun 3 2024, 02:21 PM
wonkipop   its illegal for a cat to be outside the house -...   Jun 3 2024, 04:10 PM
Chris914n6   :lol: What next, sidewalk and pedestrians? Dogs? ...   Jun 3 2024, 06:57 PM
914_teener   I have a 2022 Maverick registered and plated in CA...   Jun 3 2024, 01:53 PM
Montreal914   NARP 914 fits into the "smart car" categ...   Jun 3 2024, 03:06 PM
technicalninja   I think they are talking about a tractor in the se...   Jun 3 2024, 07:08 PM
nathanxnathan   I think they are talking about a tractor in the s...   Jun 3 2024, 08:40 PM
dhuckabay   The joke we have in South Africa is that the smart...   Jun 3 2024, 09:29 PM
Shivers   Yesterday I paid 5.05 a gallon and now they want t...   Jun 4 2024, 07:49 AM
Spoke   There was a pilot program in the Infrastructure bi...   Jun 4 2024, 08:31 AM
mrholland2   There was a pilot program in the Infrastructure b...   Jun 4 2024, 09:25 AM
Craigers17   While this might be a step in the right direction ...   Jun 4 2024, 09:01 AM
VaccaRabite   The issue that I see are the people (and long haul...   Jun 4 2024, 09:05 AM
mepstein   The issue that I see are the people (and long hau...   Jun 5 2024, 08:10 AM
nathanxnathan   My work is 25 miles from where I live, so driving ...   Jun 4 2024, 09:08 AM
mrholland2   My work is 25 miles from where I live, so driving...   Jun 5 2024, 10:14 AM
rhodyguy   I don’t know about where you guys live, but stud...   Jun 4 2024, 09:34 AM
technicalninja   No politician, left or right, will remove any ta...   Jun 4 2024, 10:58 AM
flipb   The double-taxation scenario is a pretty distant h...   Jun 4 2024, 11:30 AM
Amphicar770   An EV tax is simply an opening play towards moving...   Jun 4 2024, 11:32 AM
JeffBowlsby   The solution seems easy, just figure out how much ...   Jun 4 2024, 07:58 PM
flipb   The solution seems easy, just figure out how much...   Jun 5 2024, 07:16 AM
JeffBowlsby   The solution seems easy, just figure out how muc...   Jun 5 2024, 09:11 AM
Tbrown4x4   I’m a little late here, but WA charged me a “w...   Jun 4 2024, 08:36 PM
Front yard mechanic   :driving-girl:   Jun 4 2024, 08:59 PM
KELTY360   In New Mexico they charge you on the amount of gu...   Jun 4 2024, 09:10 PM
mate914   In New Mexico they charge you on the amount of g...   Jun 5 2024, 04:54 AM
technicalninja   I've got a way that it will work. :devil: :de...   Jun 5 2024, 08:23 AM
mepstein   Taxing gasoline at a gas station makes sense. Itâ€...   Jun 5 2024, 09:09 AM
wonkipop   Taxing gasoline at a gas station makes sense. Itâ...   Jun 5 2024, 04:55 PM
technicalninja   Too logical! Only works in California as many...   Jun 5 2024, 11:04 AM
Chris914n6   EVs are new enough they already have location data...   Jun 5 2024, 12:44 PM
SirAndy   EVs are new enough they already have location data...   Jun 5 2024, 07:08 PM
Justinp71   Would have to do it like they charge for insurance...   Jun 5 2024, 02:33 PM
Montreal914   Very interesting... How can we know if an older ca...   Jun 5 2024, 08:05 PM
SirAndy   Very interesting... How can we know if an older c...   Jun 5 2024, 08:19 PM
technicalninja   A car can be "connected" without the per...   Jun 5 2024, 08:40 PM
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