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Calafornia Road Charge |
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Jun 3 2024, 07:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 600 Joined: 24-April 10 From: Albany UpstateNY Member No.: 11,651 Region Association: None |
Sounds like a great way for EV's to pay their fair share
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nathanxnathan |
Jun 4 2024, 09:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
My work is 25 miles from where I live, so driving to and from 4 days a week (I work from home 1 day a week), that's 200 miles a week (10,400 miles per year). I average 45 mpg so 4.44 gallons of gas/week @ $5/gallon that's $22.22 per week. If they want to charge $0.30/mile that's $60/week — almost 3x what I pay for gas already on top of gas price.
Like Spoke says, some (or all) of the gas tax should be removed, but $.30/mile seems like a lot. California taxes $0.80/gallon, federal gov taxes ~ $0.20/gallon so say they remove it all (unlikely) so $4/gallon. 200 miles/45mpg = 4.44 gallons/week @ $4/gallon = $17.76/week in fuel, but still $60 road charge = $77.76. I could buy 15.55 gallons of gas @ $5/gal with that — more than 3x as much. More math, I'm thinking I'd have to be getting 15.76 mpg presently to do that badly. Average mpg for normal suv driving people is probably 25 so .30 seems again like a lot. |
mrholland2 |
Jun 5 2024, 10:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 761 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
My work is 25 miles from where I live, so driving to and from 4 days a week (I work from home 1 day a week), that's 200 miles a week (10,400 miles per year). I average 45 mpg so 4.44 gallons of gas/week @ $5/gallon that's $22.22 per week. If they want to charge $0.30/mile that's $60/week — almost 3x what I pay for gas already on top of gas price. Like Spoke says, some (or all) of the gas tax should be removed, but $.30/mile seems like a lot. California taxes $0.80/gallon, federal gov taxes ~ $0.20/gallon so say they remove it all (unlikely) so $4/gallon. 200 miles/45mpg = 4.44 gallons/week @ $4/gallon = $17.76/week in fuel, but still $60 road charge = $77.76. I could buy 15.55 gallons of gas @ $5/gal with that — more than 3x as much. More math, I'm thinking I'd have to be getting 15.76 mpg presently to do that badly. Average mpg for normal suv driving people is probably 25 so .30 seems again like a lot. So more math: If the total taxes are roughly $1.00 per gallon and they want to charge a use fee to EVs that equals what a 25mpg car pays, what should the yearly fee be for the average 11,000 miles? So, it's $1.00 per twenty five miles. That would be 440 gallons annually for a 25mpg car so it should be 440 bucks for the EVs annually. That is plain and simple. Will some people over pay? Yes. Will some people under pay? Yes. That is the only thing that needs to be solved. Leave the fuel taxes as is and massage the formula and exceptions immediately above. A possible solution: 1. Pay the $440 with your EV registration 2 Have the car send the annual mileage to the DMV/Tax people. 3. Receive credit for your next registration if you overpaid or a bill in the mail if you underpaid (or additional registration fees). Let's face it, $440 isn't that much over the course of a year. If you drive your EV 22,000 miles, you owe $880 and so forth. If you only drive 4000 miles a year like my brother, you would only owe $160. Yes? No? Insane? Rose colored glasses? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) |
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