Anyone tried an aircooled Flat 8, With two fours? Options

[r_towle]

Has anyone tried to build a flat 8 with two type 4 motors?

Theoretical questions.
Assumptions
2 motors each producing 100 HP and 100 Lb/ft of Torque

The motors are end to end, front to rear.
The cranks are fastened together either bolted or welded.

1) Would you get 200hp and 200 lb/ft or torque? or is there some multiplier...seems like you would produce more torque..

2) could it be done with a single ignition system available for sale off the shelf.

3) could you do it without two distributors? crank fired ignition system..I am thinking that there could be a wheel placed in between the motors to give you something to time from.

4) I am assuming either a nice FI system, or four carbs.

Has anyone done this?
I would like to see some articles or web pages if this has been done in the aircooled world...

Thanx in advance
Rich

[BigD9146gt]

QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jan 28 2005, 01:47 PM)

Nah.... Can't make a statement with a 911 engine! Plus, they cost too damn much to play with at this level.. I'm using 964 heads though.. Engine will go in a mid engine 1961 VW Single cab truck, under the bed.....

911's cost too much to play with at this level??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

1) What would two used long blocks go for? $2000?... ya, possibly more, but my friend just picked up a complete 69 911E all original with minimal rust for $1000. Deals are out there if you keep your eyes open, and thats what we're talking about.

2) If you charge $6000 for your base motor, and i was paying you to build a flat 8, you would have to charge $50,000 to even think about braking even. Odds are, if someone is going to be making something of this magnitude, they would't be paying you or anyone else to do it, cause for that price lots of other things could be aquired.

3) Lets think about how the factory made larger motors. The 908 and 917's for example, have very close relations to the 901 engine being over head cams, single heads, etc. Porsche and his crew were very brite, and if they chose a design similar to the 901 for their larger motors, i'm gonna say it wasn't because they listed all the options on the table and played spin the bottle to choose? Think about whats already done? Dry sump, single heads-better flowing, overhead cams, stronger crank, just a better-overall design from the get-go.

4)This is a project for someone who can do all their own work (like you and me).

Jake, i respect your work, but stick to what you know. Last time you were on the 911 bird forum, you started out high and mighty, but had zero answers. If you actually worked with 6's, you wouldn't say what you do about them... and i wouldn't be typing right now.

Again, you are a phenominal VW aircooled 4 cylinder guru.