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> 2.0 Head Gasket delete?
torakki
post Jun 15 2024, 11:10 AM
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I've read where it's a good idea to remove the head gaskets and re-assemble without them. Something about, they crush and cause an issue. Is there anything else you need to do or change, in their place? Like a different head design?
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post Jul 2 2024, 09:29 AM
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Some various ponderings on this topic.

-So we have various options of copper gaskets and aluminum gaskets for a lot of automotive applications. What is the difference between using a separate copper head gasket or using the aluminum head as its own gasket? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

-The T1 doesn't use a head gaskets, the T4 cylinder to head connection is basically identical. Why does one require a gasket and not the other?

-Why can't my local auto machine shop cut heads flat? Sure you might get someone being lazy on a Friday afternoon, but can I not measure them and verify prior to assembly that everything is as it should be?

-Also nobody has said what the actual differences are between the engines in the bulletin and those not mentioned?

Not to stir the pot or anything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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post Jul 2 2024, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Nogoodwithusernames @ Jul 2 2024, 09:29 AM) *

Some various ponderings on this topic.

-So we have various options of copper gaskets and aluminum gaskets for a lot of automotive applications. What is the difference between using a separate copper head gasket or using the aluminum head as its own gasket? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

-The T1 doesn't use a head gaskets, the T4 cylinder to head connection is basically identical. Why does one require a gasket and not the other?

-Why can't my local auto machine shop cut heads flat? Sure you might get someone being lazy on a Friday afternoon, but can I not measure them and verify prior to assembly that everything is as it should be?

-Also nobody has said what the actual differences are between the engines in the bulletin and those not mentioned?

Not to stir the pot or anything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)


My last build (2056) I did not use head gaskets, but I did make a trial assembly of the cast iron cylinders/heads with a small 1/2" long piece of Plastigage at quarter points of the sealing surface. Tourqued everything together and then broke it down and noted the readings of the Plastigage. This was what I had available, and I feel this gives a reasonably accurate picture of the joint. Two years and 7,000 miles later all is good

Cost= almost zero and a decent level of accuracy
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torakki   2.0 Head Gasket delete?   Jun 15 2024, 11:10 AM
914Sixer   If you leave them out, lap your barrels in.   Jun 15 2024, 11:37 AM
rick 918-S   Just be sure the head mating surfaces are true and...   Jun 15 2024, 11:38 AM
technicalninja   Check deck height! The upper surface of the p...   Jun 15 2024, 12:18 PM
ClayPerrine   Ok... I am going to climb up on my soapbox here......   Jun 15 2024, 02:16 PM
930cabman   I built my 2056 a couple years ago (still running ...   Jun 15 2024, 02:52 PM
ClayPerrine   I do recall reading the factory recommended to e...   Jun 15 2024, 03:21 PM
930cabman   I do recall reading the factory recommended to ...   Jun 15 2024, 04:15 PM
rick 918-S   Since Clay responded I need to clarify my post. St...   Jun 15 2024, 03:11 PM
technicalninja   Ok... I am going to climb up on my soapbox here.....   Jun 15 2024, 03:18 PM
ClayPerrine   P.S. [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index...   Jun 15 2024, 03:25 PM
emerygt350   I kept them out of my 2056 build. I ended up only...   Jun 15 2024, 03:19 PM
torakki   OK, way more responses than I thought and way more...   Jun 16 2024, 02:12 PM
930cabman   OK, way more responses than I thought and way mor...   Jun 16 2024, 05:27 PM
emerygt350   Is it still injected? D-jet? I would be looking t...   Jun 16 2024, 02:48 PM
914werke   All it took for me was one engine tear down exposi...   Jun 16 2024, 03:49 PM
ClayPerrine   (& blessed by the manufacture) I still ...   Jun 16 2024, 08:41 PM
r_towle   I don’t believe a leak at the head/cylinder woul...   Jun 16 2024, 04:36 PM
r_towle   This site may help if diagnosing djet https://mem...   Jun 16 2024, 04:38 PM
emerygt350   I don't think the two are associated (I don...   Jun 16 2024, 05:47 PM
914Sixer   I used the gasket on my 2056.   Jun 16 2024, 07:08 PM
emerygt350   I've read where it's a good idea to remov...   Jun 17 2024, 05:36 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='torakki' post='3151083' date='Jun 15...   Jun 17 2024, 09:05 AM
emerygt350   Dbl post   Jun 17 2024, 05:37 AM
914werke   [quote name='emerygt350' post='3151350' date='Jun...   Jun 17 2024, 11:04 AM
914werke   (& blessed by the manufacture) I still wan...   Jun 17 2024, 11:12 AM
ClayPerrine   Look. . this is real simple. Do what you want wi...   Jun 17 2024, 11:34 AM
Nogoodwithusernames   Pardon my lack of knowledge in this area, but what...   Jun 17 2024, 11:52 AM
mmichalik   :popcorn:   Jun 17 2024, 12:35 PM
930cabman   Possible/probable the folks at Porsche never had a...   Jun 17 2024, 01:39 PM
thomasotten   Not wanting to enter a debate that clearly needs a...   Jun 17 2024, 06:39 PM
Al Meredith   I stayed up last night reading a bunch of articles...   Jun 18 2024, 10:57 AM
Jake Raby   I stayed up last night reading a bunch of article...   Jun 30 2024, 10:08 AM
ClayPerrine   I stayed up last night reading a bunch of articl...   Jun 30 2024, 05:15 PM
emerygt350   [quote name='Jake Raby' post='3153973' date='Jun ...   Jun 30 2024, 05:43 PM
914werke   BTW #5 should be performed on ALL T4 builds (usin...   Jun 18 2024, 12:11 PM
930cabman   BTW #5 should be performed on ALL T4 builds (usi...   Jun 18 2024, 12:17 PM
914werke   correct. Poor mans oil squirter!   Jun 18 2024, 12:18 PM
rick 918-S   Question: The update states improvements were mad...   Jul 2 2024, 06:54 AM
Superhawk996   Question: The update states improvements were ma...   Jul 2 2024, 07:22 AM
rick 918-S   Question: The update states improvements were m...   Jul 2 2024, 09:05 PM
Superhawk996   Type IV rods can be notched, Cylinders can be h...   Jul 2 2024, 09:57 PM
Nogoodwithusernames   Some various ponderings on this topic. -So we hav...   Jul 2 2024, 09:29 AM
930cabman   Some various ponderings on this topic. -So we ha...   Jul 2 2024, 05:09 PM
wonkipop   Some various ponderings on this topic. -So we ha...   Jul 2 2024, 05:28 PM
930cabman   :agree: All of us need to thank Jake for his gen...   Jul 3 2024, 10:44 AM
Jake Raby   This isn't about choosing sides. I can't b...   Jul 4 2024, 01:30 PM


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