Wheel Alignment, Is this excessive camber? |
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Wheel Alignment, Is this excessive camber? |
fiacra |
Jul 5 2024, 08:23 AM
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Person.Woman.Man.Camera.TV Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 1-March 19 From: East Bay Region - California Member No.: 22,920 Region Association: Northern California |
1975 1.8 fully stock California car. I just put in turbo tie rods as well as a new trailing arm bushing, so alignment was needed. Not easy to find shops that do alignment on these cars, but a local member recommended a racing shop about 30 miles away and I took it there. They asked if I wanted it aligned for "street driving" and I confirmed that was the case. Let me emphasize that this is a stock California car in well maintained condition (a previous owner had it for 44 years and really took care of it) and I'm a really mild street driver. It is rare I'll use every one of the 76hp this can put out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Street driving only, no AX, no racing. It drove fine getting to the shop, no pulling, no vibration, etc. They told me it drove "much better" after alignment, and that the alignment was way off, especially in the rear. I couldn't tell any difference in how it drove pre and post alignment, but remember I drive for fun and I'm not by any means an aggressive driver. I brought a bunch of 914Rubber sourced shims with me, but they needed none of them and in fact returned to me a bunch of shims that were already on the car. I didn't notice it at the time I got the car back, but the next day I could see the rear wheel stance was significantly different, with (in my opinion) a lot of camber. Prior to the alignment it had maybe 1-2 degrees of camber. Again, I can't tell any difference in how the car drives, but maybe I could if I really pushed it? My question is, is this correct? I've really not seen this amount of camber on other members cars. Also, I kind of hate the rear tires leaning inward look. Not sure if I should take it back and ask for this to be "corrected." Other options are to live with it, or take it to another shop. Any thoughts? Is this amount of camber correct?
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fiacra |
Jul 6 2024, 03:03 PM
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Person.Woman.Man.Camera.TV Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 1-March 19 From: East Bay Region - California Member No.: 22,920 Region Association: Northern California |
OK, here's the sheet from the shop:
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Superhawk996 |
Jul 6 2024, 06:03 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,469 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
OK, here's the sheet from the shop: Gotta love it. So they made rear camber worse and out of spec on both sides instead of just one side. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) Left front camber is also jacked and out of spec. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) So now the dilemma: return it to the folks that are incompetent and hope they somehow improved since your last visit or find an old school alignment shop that is competent. I’ve lived this scenario multiple times in my life. Personally I’ve never had success trying to turn incompetent people around. Your best bet is to find a small shop, and talk to the tech beforehand so they understand the scope of the work (i.e. trial and error shims to set rear camber) and the specs (-0.5 degrees +/- 0.3 degrees) Note: their specs for rear toe are also wrong. Rear toe should never be allowed to be toe out. So someone set up the specs wrong. Your car is fine (toe in) but I don’t like that they have set up the machine to allow toe out to be “in spec”. |
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