Wheel Alignment, Is this excessive camber? |
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Wheel Alignment, Is this excessive camber? |
fiacra |
Jul 5 2024, 08:23 AM
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Person.Woman.Man.Camera.TV Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 1-March 19 From: East Bay Region - California Member No.: 22,920 Region Association: Northern California |
1975 1.8 fully stock California car. I just put in turbo tie rods as well as a new trailing arm bushing, so alignment was needed. Not easy to find shops that do alignment on these cars, but a local member recommended a racing shop about 30 miles away and I took it there. They asked if I wanted it aligned for "street driving" and I confirmed that was the case. Let me emphasize that this is a stock California car in well maintained condition (a previous owner had it for 44 years and really took care of it) and I'm a really mild street driver. It is rare I'll use every one of the 76hp this can put out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Street driving only, no AX, no racing. It drove fine getting to the shop, no pulling, no vibration, etc. They told me it drove "much better" after alignment, and that the alignment was way off, especially in the rear. I couldn't tell any difference in how it drove pre and post alignment, but remember I drive for fun and I'm not by any means an aggressive driver. I brought a bunch of 914Rubber sourced shims with me, but they needed none of them and in fact returned to me a bunch of shims that were already on the car. I didn't notice it at the time I got the car back, but the next day I could see the rear wheel stance was significantly different, with (in my opinion) a lot of camber. Prior to the alignment it had maybe 1-2 degrees of camber. Again, I can't tell any difference in how the car drives, but maybe I could if I really pushed it? My question is, is this correct? I've really not seen this amount of camber on other members cars. Also, I kind of hate the rear tires leaning inward look. Not sure if I should take it back and ask for this to be "corrected." Other options are to live with it, or take it to another shop. Any thoughts? Is this amount of camber correct?
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Superhawk996 |
Jul 5 2024, 09:20 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,469 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
To my eye it looks like more than negative two degrees.
My bet is the jokers pulled all the shims and are too lazy to use the shims to set the camber properly; takes too much time. |
SirAndy |
Jul 5 2024, 09:26 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,803 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
My bet is the jokers pulled all the shims and are too lazy to use the shims to set the camber properly; takes too much time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
JamesM |
Jul 5 2024, 01:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,958 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
My bet is the jokers pulled all the shims and are too lazy to use the shims to set the camber properly; takes too much time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That, or possibly if you/they lowered the car and you didnt provide them extra shims they just didnt have them to bring the camber back out again. Check the numbers on the printout they hopefully gave you. |
mgp4591 |
Jul 6 2024, 11:52 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,450 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
My bet is the jokers pulled all the shims and are too lazy to use the shims to set the camber properly; takes too much time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That, or possibly if you/they lowered the car and you didnt provide them extra shims they just didnt have them to bring the camber back out again. Check the numbers on the printout they hopefully gave you. James, he did say that they returned some shims to him, more than he supplied them with. The car definitely looks lower that when Bob sold it to him...I'd ask if they'd messed with the ride height or if he did. That rear end looks more like 3 degrees negative. If they didn't mess with ride height, I'd agree that they were lazy and didn't take the time to shim the rears properly...in actuality, it doesn't take that long to install the shims once you know how but it's not the norm for most shops these days. |
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