914 driving lights, Installing OEM type driving lights to a 1974 914 Options

[Jezibel]

I have a '74 914-4 that did not come with the optional driving light set and wish to add them to my car. The 73-76 914s came with pre-installed wiring exiting from behind the front bumper, from my understanding, that would allow lights to be added simply by installing and connecting them.

My car seems to have these wires, as expected, but due to paint overspray effects, the wire colors have been obscured, making it hard to determine which is the brown GND wire and which is the black (+) wire.

I'd appreciate any help available advice from others who have retroactively installed the accessory (OEM type) driving lights to their cars. This might simplify my efforts considerably.

Also, my car's horn was removed and I wish to install a set of the HELLA OEM type dual-tone Superlouds. Again, the wiring is oversprayed by body paint, so any way to quickly determine what wire is the brown GND and (+) power wires for the original (now removed) horn? Is the original horn relay located on the engine-bay relay tray or somewhere else on the car?

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[914werke]

74 were different (round) from late (75-76) rectangular lights & the wiring while similar is specific,
The early lights use a tinned 22g (i think) wire as a hot. on one side it is pair of wires the ground is a femail blade connector
BTW the OE are Fog not Driving lights

[ClayPerrine]

74 were different (round) from late (75-76) rectangular lights & the wiring while similar is specific,
The early lights use a tinned 22g (i think) wire as a hot. on one side it is pair of wires the ground is a femail blade connector
BTW the OE are Fog not Driving lights

Just a piece of trivia....

The 914 fog lights are the same housing and mounts as the 911S driving lights of the same era. The glass lenses and the bulbs are different. And, of course, the part number on them are different between the 911S driving lights and the 914 fog lights.

I know this because i bought a set of 911S driving lights at a swap meet and installed them on my red 914-6 conversion. I have had multiple 911 guys try to buy them from me because apparently they are fairly rare.

[rgalla9146]

74 were different (round) from late (75-76) rectangular lights & the wiring while similar is specific,
The early lights use a tinned 22g (i think) wire as a hot. on one side it is pair of wires the ground is a femail blade connector
BTW the OE are Fog not Driving lights

Just a piece of trivia....

The 914 fog lights are the same housing and mounts as the 911S driving lights of the same era. The glass lenses and the bulbs are different. And, of course, the part number on them are different between the 911S driving lights and the 914 fog lights.

I know this because i bought a set of 911S driving lights at a swap meet and installed them on my red 914-6 conversion. I have had multiple 911 guys try to buy them from me because apparently they are fairly rare.

When seen on early 911s (before 1974) they have a chrome rim and stainless or
chrome body, not black like on a 914. They're known as 'through the grill lamps'
and are high value items.

[Jezibel]

Just a piece of trivia....
The 914 fog lights are the same housing and mounts as the 911S driving lights of the same era. The glass lenses and the bulbs are different. And, of course, the part number on them are different between the 911S driving lights and the 914 fog lights.
I know this because i bought a set of 911S driving lights at a swap meet and installed them on my red 914-6 conversion. I have had multiple 911 guys try to buy them from me because apparently they are fairly rare.

When seen on early 911s (before 1974) they have a chrome rim and stainless or
chrome body, not black like on a 914. They're known as 'through the grill lamps'
and are high value items.

Thanks to you and all others who have weighed in on this matter. Few things are more exasperating than PO (previous owners) having made wiring changes to suit their intended applications without drawing up a diagram for any subsequent owners to follow, should they wish to alter/modify/revert wiring mods. I have had numerous VW Bugs and five 914s (including a beautiful Six) in past years and have always taken great pains to diagram everything I've altered', and placed in the car's documentation folio....since as we all know, one never "owns" a 914 outright, we merely become temporary custodians of the car until it ends up being re-homed.

While I understand that may seem OCD'ish or pedantish to some with vast experience and/or automotive electrical knowledge, for a great many whose equivalent understanding is modest, it can be a life-saver (and certainly offer relief from the frustrations of trying to puzzle everything out using electrical diagrams).

In all contexts and applications, colloquies such as are provided by 914WORLD are absolutely invaluable! Thanks, everyone! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Jezibel]

Just a piece of trivia....
The 914 fog lights are the same housing and mounts as the 911S driving lights of the same era. The glass lenses and the bulbs are different. And, of course, the part number on them are different between the 911S driving lights and the 914 fog lights.
I know this because i bought a set of 911S driving lights at a swap meet and installed them on my red 914-6 conversion. I have had multiple 911 guys try to buy them from me because apparently they are fairly rare.

When seen on early 911s (before 1974) they have a chrome rim and stainless or
chrome body, not black like on a 914. They're known as 'through the grill lamps'
and are high value items.

Thanks to you and all others who have weighed in on this matter. Few things are more exasperating than PO (previous owners) having made wiring changes to suit their intended applications without drawing up a diagram for any subsequent owners to follow, should they wish to alter/modify/revert wiring mods. I have had numerous VW Bugs and five 914s (including a beautiful Six) in past years and have always taken great pains to diagram everything I've altered', and placed in the car's documentation folio....since as we all know, one never "owns" a 914 outright, we merely become temporary custodians of the car until it ends up being re-homed.

While I understand that may seem OCD'ish or pedantish to some with vast experience and/or automotive electrical knowledge, for a great many whose equivalent understanding is modest, it can be a life-saver (and certainly offer relief from the frustrations of trying to puzzle everything out using electrical diagrams).

In all contexts and applications, colloquies such as are provided by 914WORLD are absolutely invaluable! Thanks, everyone! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)