Wheel Alignment, Is this excessive camber? |
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Wheel Alignment, Is this excessive camber? |
fiacra |
Jul 5 2024, 08:23 AM
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Person.Woman.Man.Camera.TV Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 1-March 19 From: East Bay Region - California Member No.: 22,920 Region Association: Northern California |
1975 1.8 fully stock California car. I just put in turbo tie rods as well as a new trailing arm bushing, so alignment was needed. Not easy to find shops that do alignment on these cars, but a local member recommended a racing shop about 30 miles away and I took it there. They asked if I wanted it aligned for "street driving" and I confirmed that was the case. Let me emphasize that this is a stock California car in well maintained condition (a previous owner had it for 44 years and really took care of it) and I'm a really mild street driver. It is rare I'll use every one of the 76hp this can put out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Street driving only, no AX, no racing. It drove fine getting to the shop, no pulling, no vibration, etc. They told me it drove "much better" after alignment, and that the alignment was way off, especially in the rear. I couldn't tell any difference in how it drove pre and post alignment, but remember I drive for fun and I'm not by any means an aggressive driver. I brought a bunch of 914Rubber sourced shims with me, but they needed none of them and in fact returned to me a bunch of shims that were already on the car. I didn't notice it at the time I got the car back, but the next day I could see the rear wheel stance was significantly different, with (in my opinion) a lot of camber. Prior to the alignment it had maybe 1-2 degrees of camber. Again, I can't tell any difference in how the car drives, but maybe I could if I really pushed it? My question is, is this correct? I've really not seen this amount of camber on other members cars. Also, I kind of hate the rear tires leaning inward look. Not sure if I should take it back and ask for this to be "corrected." Other options are to live with it, or take it to another shop. Any thoughts? Is this amount of camber correct?
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Superhawk996 |
Jul 21 2024, 11:28 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,469 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I’m so confused.
So the expert is advising you to run excess camber and see if your tires wear? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Will he pay for the new tires when you don’t like the wear pattern? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Here’s the bottom line: you can run more camber than the OEM spec if you wish to improve handling. This is done all the time for autocross and weekend track day cars. But if you aren’t throwing the car around in the twisties and that doesn’t seem to match your description of your personal driving style, there is NO benefit to running excess camber at the expense of tire wear. It isn’t a question of IF it will increase tire wear, only a matter of how many miles it will take to do so and whether you “age out” your tires before that wear occurs. The funniest thing is you don’t even like the look of the increased camber which makes it even the more appalling that these experts keep pushing you to keep running that camber. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
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