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> 914 driving lights, Installing OEM type driving lights to a 1974 914
Jezibel
post Jul 8 2024, 11:29 AM
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I have a '74 914-4 that did not come with the optional driving light set and wish to add them to my car. The 73-76 914s came with pre-installed wiring exiting from behind the front bumper, from my understanding, that would allow lights to be added simply by installing and connecting them.

My car seems to have these wires, as expected, but due to paint overspray effects, the wire colors have been obscured, making it hard to determine which is the brown GND wire and which is the black (+) wire.

I'd appreciate any help available advice from others who have retroactively installed the accessory (OEM type) driving lights to their cars. This might simplify my efforts considerably.

Also, my car's horn was removed and I wish to install a set of the HELLA OEM type dual-tone Superlouds. Again, the wiring is oversprayed by body paint, so any way to quickly determine what wire is the brown GND and (+) power wires for the original (now removed) horn? Is the original horn relay located on the engine-bay relay tray or somewhere else on the car?

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post Jul 26 2024, 12:45 PM
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Looks good! If you've never reinstalled before, I'd make sure you check that the lights are centered in the grill openings and the lines on the fog light lenses are vertical (90 degrees) to the ground BEFORE you bolt the bumper back on. Prop it up with two jack stands / have a friend help. I'd also recommend having the bolts just a little loose so you can make fine adjustments, before tightening everything down. Saves a ton of time. Best of Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Aug 3 2024, 11:58 AM
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Looks good! If you've never reinstalled before, I'd make sure you check that the lights are centered in the grill openings and the lines on the fog light lenses are vertical (90 degrees) to the ground BEFORE you bolt the bumper back on. Prop it up with two jack stands / have a friend help. I'd also recommend having the bolts just a little loose so you can make fine adjustments, before tightening everything down. Saves a ton of time. Best of Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)


[font=Verdana][size=3] GROAN! I just finished the wiring hook-up for the fog lamps, which I acquired as 'reconditioned' OE 914 lamps, opened them up and find that the bulb holder in the reflector assembly will not take a Hella BA20s "F2" bulb (12v/35wt)! WTF! the bulb holder in the below images looks like it take a much larger bulb base (way too big for an "F2" type bulb).

What is going on here? Am I overlooking something or missing some detail I wasn't previously aware of?

I've attached five images of this bulb holder inside my reconditioned "914 fog lamps" and would really appreciate someone pointing out whatever is obvious to those who know about such matters!(but unknown to me) before I jump off the nearest steep cliff! Thanks.


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[size=3] GROAN! I just finished the wiring hook-up for the fog lamps, which I acquired as 'reconditioned' OE 914 lamps, opened them up and find that the bulb holder in the reflector assembly will not take a Hella BA20s "F2" bulb (12v/35wt)! WTF! the bulb holder in the below images looks like it take a much larger bulb base (way too big for an "F2" type bulb).

What is going on here? Am I overlooking something or missing some detail I wasn't previously aware of?


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[font=Verdana]PS: Were there two different bulb holders (an early and a late)? Or were there perhaps US and European bulb holders that were different, intended for different bulbs. I was under the impression that the 'OE standard' bulb for 914 fog lamps took a regular Hella BA20s "F2" bulb. Is that a mistaken impression? Or again, am I missing something.

PSS: based on what I know of the 914 bulb holder and what I seem to have on my lamps, it looks to me as if part of the bulb holder that secures one side of the bulb's base pin-securing lip has been 'curled back.' Why, I cannot fathom? Surely that's NOT the way it is supposed to be, is it?
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PS: Were there two different bulb holders (an early and a late)? Or were there perhaps US and European bulb holders that were different, intended for different bulbs. I was under the impression that the 'OE standard' bulb for 914 fog lamps took a regular Hella BA20s "F2" bulb. Is that a mistaken impression? Or again, am I missing something.

PSS: based on what I know of the 914 bulb holder and what I seem to have on my lamps, it looks to me as if part of the bulb holder that secures one side of the bulb's base pin-securing lip has been 'curled back.' Why, I cannot fathom? Surely that's NOT the way it is supposed to be, is it?
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Even with that peeled-back bulb socket lip back in some semblance of where it was supposed to be, the images below show that the BA20s "F2" bulb base diameter is still about half the size of whatever was in there originally! How can that possibly be?



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Jezibel   914 driving lights   Jul 8 2024, 11:29 AM
rjames   You can determine the ground from the positive usi...   Jul 8 2024, 12:18 PM
914werke   74 were different (round) from late (75-76) rectan...   Jul 8 2024, 12:41 PM
ClayPerrine   74 were different (round) from late (75-76) recta...   Jul 8 2024, 03:01 PM
rgalla9146   74 were different (round) from late (75-76) rect...   Jul 8 2024, 07:31 PM
Jezibel   Thanks to you and all others who have weighed i...   Jul 14 2024, 11:41 AM
Jezibel   Thanks to you and all others who have weighed i...   Jul 14 2024, 11:42 AM
Artfrombama   The horn relay is located on top of the fuse holde...   Jul 8 2024, 12:49 PM
SirAndy   There is no such thing as OEM driving lights for t...   Jul 8 2024, 05:31 PM
L-Jet914   I installed a set of Euro spec halogen fog lights ...   Jul 8 2024, 07:01 PM
NARP74   They are fog lights for driving. I gave up tryin...   Jul 14 2024, 11:49 AM
SirAndy   They are fog lights for driving. I gave up tryi...   Jul 14 2024, 12:07 PM
914werke   :rolleyes: There is always this option...   Jul 14 2024, 01:09 PM
NARP74   I know that... my point was that I stopped trying ...   Jul 14 2024, 05:13 PM
Jezibel   I know that... my point was that I stopped trying...   Jul 15 2024, 03:14 PM
Shivers   Yes they are. The wires for the switch are under t...   Jul 15 2024, 06:39 PM
Jezibel   Yes they are. The wires for the switch are under ...   Jul 16 2024, 11:08 AM
worn   The brown wires will always have continuity with t...   Aug 3 2024, 07:04 PM
dtmehall   check out the thread listed below. i added driving...   Jul 15 2024, 07:38 PM
Jezibel   check out the thread listed below. i added drivin...   Jul 16 2024, 11:11 AM
VaccaRabite   I have Supertones on my 914. You will want to upgr...   Jul 16 2024, 07:47 AM
Jezibel   I have SuperTones on my 914. You will want to upg...   Jul 16 2024, 11:31 AM
Eric_Shea   I try to put these TN6's on every build now. ...   Jul 16 2024, 02:04 PM
Jezibel   I try to put these TN6's on every build now. ...   Jul 16 2024, 07:38 PM
914werke   [quote name='Jezibel' post='3157082' date='Jul 16...   Jul 17 2024, 12:02 AM
Jezibel   That $99.00 shipped is looking better & ...   Jul 17 2024, 11:12 AM
914werke   [quote name='914werke' post='3157098' date='Jul 1...   Jul 17 2024, 09:36 PM
dtmehall   to expand on my post about a previous thread: i i...   Jul 17 2024, 07:19 PM
Jezibel   to expand on my post about a previous thread: i ...   Jul 20 2024, 11:06 AM
rick 918-S   This is a question on the subject I was just going...   Jul 18 2024, 07:48 AM
rick 918-S   Since this post I spoke with Glenn Stazak. He stat...   Jul 18 2024, 08:37 AM
davep   Yes, Euro harness has dual spade for bumper lights...   Jul 18 2024, 09:07 AM
rick 918-S   Yes, Euro harness has dual spade for bumper light...   Jul 18 2024, 10:22 AM
davep   [quote name='davep' post='3157309' date='Jul 18 2...   Jul 18 2024, 11:12 AM
ClayPerrine   You don't have to remove the front wheels, jus...   Jul 20 2024, 04:59 PM
Jezibel   You don't have to remove the front wheels, ju...   Jul 26 2024, 12:33 PM
friethmiller   Looks good! If you've never reinstalled b...   Jul 26 2024, 12:45 PM
Jezibel   Looks good! If you've never reinstalled ...   Aug 3 2024, 11:58 AM
Jezibel   [size=3] GROAN! I just finished the wiring hoo...   Aug 3 2024, 03:04 PM
Jezibel   [font=Verdana]PS: Were there two different bulb ...   Aug 3 2024, 03:29 PM
Shivers   I can offer you this. @[url=http://www.914wo...   Aug 3 2024, 05:09 PM
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Jezibel   PS: I'm thinking of writing a book titled ...   Aug 5 2024, 08:29 AM
914werke   Final thoughts: It would be GREAT if some enlight...   Aug 5 2024, 11:40 AM
Jezibel   Final thoughts: It would be GREAT if some enligh...   Aug 6 2024, 05:57 PM
burton73   I do not see that great at night. I had PMB Perfor...   Aug 5 2024, 09:39 AM
Jezibel   I do not see that great at night. I had PMB Perfo...   Aug 5 2024, 11:32 AM
burton73   I do not see that great at night. I had PMB Perf...   Aug 5 2024, 12:19 PM


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