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> NEED HELP: 1974 1.8L Will Only Start with Brake Clean, Runs with AFM disconnected only
Nor.Cal.914
post Sep 19 2024, 03:03 PM
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Hello everyone,

I have a 1974 1.8L that needs a new fuel pump and the customer purchased this pump from Pelican:

https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/0439...59&DID=4630

I have already figured out the line routing in terms of inlet and outlet, but I do have a few questions about some other aspects. Being that the stock pump is a 3-port pump, first question is, what was the reasoning behind the 3 ports instead of just an inlet and outlet? My first thought was maybe an internal FPR, but I see there is a one in the engine compartment so that doesn't seem to be the case, but please correct me if I'm wrong! Second question involves mounting the pump. I have a 1975 so I'm not as familiar with how the 1974's were setup. This car has the coil style ring bracket around the pump which I'm now trying to figure out if I can utilize to mount the new pump. Main issue of course is the fact that all 3 lines came out on one side of the factory pump, whereas this pump has inlet/outlet on either side.

So my question is, what have you guys done to mount your pumps either in the same location or where did you place it instead of the factory location? Thank you in advance for the help! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

-Christopher
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post Sep 19 2024, 05:47 PM
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postscript.

went back and re-read my own thread that i posted link to.
its been a while since i rebuilt those pumps.

i thought there was something else the third port does.
it helps with expelling any air in the system and the pump.
if you go to the link i posted above and second page right at the end are some diagrams and a cross section through the pump. the little cylindrical spring loaded valve in the port has a spiral groove in it that lets air bubbles escape down the return port and into the t with the fuel return line from the fpr to the tank.

i guess air bubbles can form in fuel as it cools following shut down. inside the pump and the supply line. so these can escape that way rather than go into the pressurized injector supply line via the delivery port. no doubt helps with cavitation etc. the correct place to put this in the case of EFI cars was in the pump head after pressurization which is really after the fuel supply port. as the body of the fuel pump and supply pprt even though they are full of fuel is not pressurized in one of these roller cell pumps. or it is at least not as pressurized as much as it is right at the delivery port.

whereas in a turbine pump really the whole interior of the pump is pressurized i believe.
so you can do the relief thing and possibly even air bubble relief thing back through the tank supply port.
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Nor.Cal.914   NEED HELP: 1974 1.8L Will Only Start with Brake Clean   Sep 19 2024, 03:03 PM
Geezer914   Get a Delphi pump from Rock Auto for $108...   Sep 19 2024, 03:37 PM
Nor.Cal.914   Get a Delphi pump from Rock Auto for $108...   Sep 19 2024, 03:57 PM
Artfrombama   Get a Delphi pump from Rock Auto for $108...   Sep 19 2024, 04:02 PM
wonkipop   have rebuilt two of the old bosch 3 port pumps. li...   Sep 19 2024, 04:52 PM
Nor.Cal.914   have rebuilt two of the old bosch 3 port pumps. l...   Sep 23 2024, 08:45 AM
wonkipop   and yes you will have a bit of trouble mounting a ...   Sep 19 2024, 05:10 PM
wonkipop   postscript. went back and re-read my own thread t...   Sep 19 2024, 05:47 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   we sell the conversion kit for 125.00 that include...   Sep 23 2024, 08:47 AM
Nor.Cal.914   we sell the conversion kit for 125.00 that includ...   Sep 23 2024, 09:29 AM
StarBear   Weird that it runs only with the AFM disconnected....   Sep 23 2024, 09:55 AM
Nor.Cal.914   Weird that it runs only with the AFM disconnected...   Sep 23 2024, 10:49 AM
Artfrombama   Forgive me if you have already done this but have ...   Sep 23 2024, 11:50 AM
Nor.Cal.914   Forgive me if you have already done this but have...   Sep 23 2024, 03:33 PM
wonkipop   here is what i think. a few us here with 1.8s hav...   Sep 23 2024, 05:22 PM
Nor.Cal.914   here is what i think. a few us here with 1.8s ha...   Oct 7 2024, 03:06 PM
Nor.Cal.914   Here are some pictures of the engine bay. If there...   Oct 7 2024, 03:15 PM
Nor.Cal.914   Last one:   Oct 7 2024, 03:15 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Oct 7 2024, 05:25 PM
fiacra   A few thoughts that came to mind when reading your...   Oct 7 2024, 06:30 PM
wonkipop   here is a direct link to the L jet troubleshooting...   Oct 7 2024, 09:28 PM
wonkipop   ok @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Oct 7 2024, 09:53 PM
wonkipop   looking close at one of your photos. something see...   Oct 7 2024, 10:24 PM
L-Jet914   That caught my attention too @wonkipop the wire ...   Oct 7 2024, 10:56 PM
wonkipop   That caught my attention too [b]@[url=http://www...   Oct 8 2024, 12:30 AM
wonkipop   i just noticed another thing. the fuse board or wh...   Oct 8 2024, 01:03 AM
Nor.Cal.914   A few thoughts that came to mind when reading you...   Oct 8 2024, 08:33 AM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Oct 8 2024, 04:17 PM
wonkipop   Some other things I found this morning while testi...   Oct 8 2024, 10:52 PM
technicalninja   Hello from Granbury Texas! I have a shitload ...   Oct 8 2024, 08:59 AM
Nor.Cal.914   Hello from Granbury Texas! I have a shitload...   Oct 8 2024, 09:14 AM
technicalninja   My units have 7 pins! Check your connector tha...   Oct 8 2024, 09:53 AM
technicalninja   If the fuel is poisoned, you have to clear that fi...   Oct 8 2024, 10:59 AM
technicalninja   MOST IMPORTANT TIP!!!!!!...   Oct 8 2024, 11:13 AM
Nor.Cal.914   My units have 7 pins! Check your connector th...   Oct 8 2024, 02:58 PM
Artfrombama   Is the fuel injection trigger wire connected to th...   Oct 8 2024, 06:31 PM


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