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930cabman
post Oct 30 2024, 01:03 PM
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Don't ask, but project #4 is underway. a decent 1974 model without mountains of rust. More pics to follow, but I discovered this yesterday

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So goes it. The floors are very good (appear to be), the longs need some small patches including the jack posts,.......

Good winter project
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post Nov 3 2024, 12:05 PM
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Yeah - sketchy but it isn’t terrible for an east coast car. Worse have been saved . . . At a cost.

Measure the tub carefully before you invest lots of time or $ into this chassis. I can’t imagine it having been hit that hard and not needing a pull on a frame rig to square it back up.
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post Nov 4 2024, 05:48 PM
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Yeah - sketchy but it isn’t terrible for an east coast car. Worse have been saved . . . At a cost.

Measure the tub carefully before you invest lots of time or $ into this chassis. I can’t imagine it having been hit that hard and not needing a pull on a frame rig to square it back up.


We have seen much worse (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

I took a couple basic measurements and things look not terrible. As time allows I will open it up more and see what I am dealing with. Wondering if I can remove the creased portion, straighten it out and weld it back in place?
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Nov 4 2024, 07:48 PM) *

Wondering if I can remove the creased portion, straighten it out and weld it back in place?

The problem is that buckle indicates metal has moved substantially. Not just there but across the whole truck and probably in front of the buckle as well.

You’ve got to figure out where it moved before you can just hammer it out and expect to have it be square. Remember you’ve got to work in and measure in all three dimensions.

Somehow if you get exceedingly luckily it was crudely pulled to some degree on a frame rack when the did the lap repair.

When I had my 1st teener I had an incident that bent the front. If I remember right it was about $900 to pull it back around 1988. That was big $$ at the time! Though it was almost repaired perfectly there was still evidence of stretch and a minor buckle down in the bottom of the frunk.

Point being they may have pulled it already but didn’t take care of the buckled area due to time / cost. The only way to tell for sure is measure, measure, and measure some more.

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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Nov 4 2024, 10:13 PM) *

QUOTE(930cabman @ Nov 4 2024, 07:48 PM) *

Wondering if I can remove the creased portion, straighten it out and weld it back in place?

The problem is that buckle indicates metal has moved substantially. Not just there but across the whole truck and probably in front of the buckle as well.

You’ve got to figure out where it moved before you can just hammer it out and expect to have it be square. Remember you’ve got to work in and measure in all three dimensions.

Somehow if you get exceedingly luckily it was crudely pulled to some degree on a frame rack when the did the lap repair.

When I had my 1st teener I had an incident that bent the front. If I remember right it was about $900 to pull it back around 1988. That was big $$ at the time! Though it was almost repaired perfectly there was still evidence of stretch and a minor buckle down in the bottom of the frunk.

Point being they may have pulled it already but didn’t take care of the buckled area due to time / cost. The only way to tell for sure is measure, measure, and measure some more.


Yes, this repair will have some different challenges. I will be proceeding slowly and having made a career as a carpenter for many years, measure several times prior to cutting is the rule. Hoping to find another thread or two with a rear end impact.

BTW, update with your new digs?

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BTW, update with your new digs?

Not really much new yet to be worth a post and photos. Permanent roof is on. Windows ordered - maybe arrive around Thanksgiving. Garage doors in December sometime.

Just endless small details that don’t result in anything looking complete.

Look up Jeff Hails bring out the dead thread. He has a good underbody measurement template that you can print out and use to compare to your tub. Photos of it on my build thread too (post #51)

That really looks like it’s going to need some hydraulic pulling even if the suspension locations weren’t affected.
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BTW, update with your new digs?

Not really much new yet to be worth a post and photos. Permanent roof is on. Windows ordered - maybe arrive around Thanksgiving. Garage doors in December sometime.

Just endless small details that don’t result in anything looking complete.

Look up Jeff Hails bring out the dead thread. He has a good underbody measurement template that you can print out and use to compare to your tub. Photos of it on my build thread too (post #51)

That really looks like it’s going to need some hydraulic pulling even if the suspension locations weren’t affected.


Endless small details, it never ends as you well know

Thanks for the info, so far as hydraulic pulling goes I have 0 experience. We shall see.

There is a frame shop somewhat local, maybe I will pay a visit
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930cabman   Crumple zone   Oct 30 2024, 01:03 PM
SirAndy   :unsure:   Oct 30 2024, 01:08 PM
sixnotfour   ouch.. good news that's an early muffler shi...   Oct 30 2024, 02:40 PM
Root_Werks   That's an interesting fix on the trailing arm ...   Oct 30 2024, 04:33 PM
930cabman   That's an interesting fix on the trailing arm...   Oct 30 2024, 04:51 PM
gereed75   What is that blue stuff up on top of the suspensio...   Oct 30 2024, 05:56 PM
930cabman   What is that blue stuff up on top of the suspensi...   Oct 31 2024, 04:52 AM
sixnotfour   Lets be honest, Poor914 has been hit hard in the R...   Oct 30 2024, 06:08 PM
930cabman   Lets be honest, Poor914 has been hit hard in the ...   Nov 2 2024, 01:58 PM
sixnotfour   Backed into some trees,,, no buckle liike Posters ...   Oct 30 2024, 06:54 PM
rick 918-S   Seen that one before. Best remove the botched out...   Oct 31 2024, 05:30 AM
930cabman   Seen that one before. Best remove the botched ou...   Oct 31 2024, 09:45 AM
Front yard mechanic   At lease the KYBs have loosened up a bit   Oct 31 2024, 06:04 AM
Jack Standz   This is a good reminder why a pre-purchase inspect...   Oct 31 2024, 08:35 AM
930cabman   This is a good reminder why a pre-purchase inspec...   Oct 31 2024, 09:49 AM
Superhawk996   Post pics of the rest of the car. From what you...   Nov 2 2024, 02:28 PM
JamesM   a decent 1974 model without mountains of rust. ...   Nov 2 2024, 11:47 PM
930cabman   we have seen worse   Nov 3 2024, 08:57 AM
Superhawk996   Yeah - sketchy but it isn’t terrible for an east...   Nov 3 2024, 12:05 PM
930cabman   Yeah - sketchy but it isn’t terrible for an eas...   Nov 4 2024, 05:48 PM
Superhawk996   Wondering if I can remove the creased portion, st...   Nov 4 2024, 09:13 PM
930cabman   Wondering if I can remove the creased portion, s...   Nov 5 2024, 06:45 PM
Superhawk996   BTW, update with your new digs? Not really muc...   Nov 9 2024, 08:06 PM
930cabman   BTW, update with your new digs? Not really mu...   Nov 10 2024, 12:23 PM
worn   It is nice that I haven’t seen any chicken wire ...   Nov 11 2024, 08:28 PM
930cabman   It is nice that I haven’t seen any chicken wire...   Nov 12 2024, 01:25 PM
sixnotfour   $1000 roller being sent to blaster this week....   Nov 3 2024, 09:10 PM
930cabman   Quarter panel removed to repair poor lap joint ...   Nov 9 2024, 03:13 PM
930cabman   Stopped at a local old school frame shop, the old ...   Nov 11 2024, 01:14 PM
Superhawk996   Why running/driving? They should be able to work w...   Nov 11 2024, 07:42 PM
930cabman   Why running/driving? They should be able to work ...   Nov 12 2024, 01:22 PM
930cabman   Drivers side portion of trunk floor, crumple di...   Nov 27 2024, 02:57 PM
930cabman   Full width shot Rear firewall appears undamage...   Nov 27 2024, 03:00 PM
Root_Werks   Oh boy, now we're getting into the good stuff...   Nov 27 2024, 04:51 PM
Superhawk996   Still haven’t measured? :poke:   Nov 27 2024, 11:42 PM
930cabman   Still haven’t measured? :poke: Yes, but not ...   Nov 28 2024, 06:47 AM
930cabman   The plan is remove some damaged(easily removable...   Nov 28 2024, 09:48 AM
Superhawk996   :smash: :popcorn:   Nov 28 2024, 12:05 PM
930cabman   We are planning to move some metal Cheap, ...   Nov 30 2024, 01:09 PM
Superhawk996   Be careful. Don’t pull your scissors lift over ...   Nov 30 2024, 01:23 PM
930cabman   Be careful. Don’t pull your scissors lift over...   Nov 30 2024, 06:49 PM
930cabman   Peeling back the onion, currently the plan is t...   Dec 4 2024, 02:06 PM
930cabman   Lots of good metal here, finding the way through i...   Dec 6 2024, 05:53 AM
Superhawk996   I hope you aren’t thinking about doing what I th...   Dec 6 2024, 06:21 AM
930cabman   I hope you aren’t thinking about doing what I t...   Dec 6 2024, 10:28 AM
Superhawk996   I hope you aren’t thinking about doing what I ...   Dec 6 2024, 02:43 PM
930cabman   [quote name='930cabman' post='3180488' date='Dec ...   Dec 6 2024, 03:50 PM
Superhawk996   Ah! That sounds a whole lot more reasonable. ...   Dec 6 2024, 09:47 PM
930cabman   Starting to remove the kinked inner fenderwell ...   Dec 14 2024, 02:18 PM
Superhawk996   :popcorn:   Dec 14 2024, 02:42 PM
worn   :popcorn: :agree: :welder: :popcorn:   Dec 14 2024, 08:15 PM
930cabman   Before Kink from the underside   Dec 15 2024, 08:10 AM
930cabman   DP   Dec 15 2024, 10:45 AM
930cabman   Hoping this won't need too much push. Plann...   Dec 15 2024, 01:17 PM
r_towle   Damn! You have skills!   Dec 15 2024, 10:06 PM
930cabman   Damn! You have skills! thank you, all o...   Dec 16 2024, 09:50 AM
Superhawk996   :D   Dec 16 2024, 10:12 AM


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