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> CFR Firewall Shifter Bushing, Fasteners
TargaToy
post Oct 30 2024, 04:09 PM
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I'm installing Chris Foley's firewall bushing which is a beautiful design.

Has anybody installed one using fasteners other than the sheet metal screws or pop rivets that came with the kit?

I've been contemplating installing #10-24 riv-nuts after reading someone else's experience with either the screws or the rivets (I can't remember which) working loose over time.

What's your experience?
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technicalninja
post Nov 12 2024, 06:47 PM
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All other forms of attachment rely on the firewall retaining the fastener.

A bolt through plate, like TargaToy built does not. When you tighten his down it pinches a 360 degree circle around the hole.

Sooner or later the Rivnut insert will loosen in its mounting just like the rivets or sheet metal screws

Sometimes you end up with a Rivnut spinning in the surface it's mounted in and that can RUIN your day, especially if you can't get to the backside to grab the Rivnut.

The Rivnuts will also stand the bushing off of the firewall surface the thickness of the outer portion of the Rivnut. This is enough to make me use a tiny bit of RTV between the bushing and firewall if I was installing using Rivnuts.

The Rivnuts require a larger hole and the metal between the original hole and the Rivnut holes might get pretty thin.

I was planning on simple pop rivets for mine until I saw TargaToy's solution.

Now, this thing we're talking about is NOT all that critical in how it's mounted.
It sees no real side loading and the original pop rivet design is not only easy, but also sufficient for most installations.

Want to go "full monte"?

Stick studs into the plate...

Studs would make that more user friendly to install by one person and I'd choose "nylocks" for the nuts.

Those button headed Allens do look great however!

Thanks again to @TargaToy

Sometimes "seeing" a problem through the eyes of others HELPS bigtime!
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TargaToy   CFR Firewall Shifter Bushing   Oct 30 2024, 04:09 PM
Dlee6205   I've installed a couple so far and always used...   Oct 30 2024, 04:54 PM
TargaToy   I've installed a couple so far and always use...   Oct 30 2024, 06:49 PM
jim_hoyland   Ric-nuts sound interesting, tell us what you decid...   Oct 30 2024, 05:06 PM
gereed75   I fabbed a little nut plate to put on the interior...   Oct 30 2024, 05:50 PM
jim_hoyland   I fabbed a little nut plate to put on the interio...   Oct 30 2024, 06:12 PM
gereed75   I fabbed a little nut plate to put on the interi...   Oct 31 2024, 04:58 PM
ChrisFoley   A friend of mine said he installed one with self t...   Oct 31 2024, 06:20 AM
jim_hoyland   What does a drill bit wrapped in tape look like ? ...   Oct 31 2024, 06:42 AM
GregAmy   I am a massive fan of rivnuts, use them in any app...   Oct 31 2024, 07:36 AM
VaccaRabite   I installed the spherical bushing from Chris in 20...   Oct 31 2024, 11:46 AM
Flyinlow   I also used the rivets but used j b weld on back j...   Oct 31 2024, 04:50 PM
FlacaProductions   I also used the rivets but used j b weld on back ...   Oct 31 2024, 06:05 PM
TargaToy   Here's a little follow-up. Picked up a larg...   Nov 11 2024, 12:43 PM
913B   Here's a little follow-up. Picked up a lar...   Nov 11 2024, 08:10 PM
technicalninja   Thanks for posting that! I'll do somethin...   Nov 11 2024, 01:31 PM
Montreal914   This is a very elegant solution to this installati...   Nov 11 2024, 05:42 PM
jim_hoyland   Are the nuts put on through the hole in the firewa...   Nov 11 2024, 08:01 PM
TargaToy   Are the nuts put on through the hole in the firew...   Nov 11 2024, 08:16 PM
jim_hoyland   Thanks: so you reached back from inside the cabin ...   Nov 11 2024, 08:29 PM
Shivers   Thanks: so you reached back from inside the cabin...   Nov 12 2024, 09:43 AM
NARP74   Isn't that new washer defeating the purpose of...   Nov 12 2024, 09:14 AM
technicalninja   Not a chance. Look at his final pics The washer...   Nov 12 2024, 09:26 AM
TargaToy   The only "gotcha" here might be too muc...   Nov 12 2024, 11:38 AM
technicalninja   The only "gotcha" here might be too mu...   Nov 12 2024, 01:19 PM
iankarr   Great idea. That plate is a really nice upgrade to...   Nov 12 2024, 04:36 PM
jim_hoyland   How would the plate compare to using RivNuts ?   Nov 12 2024, 05:30 PM
technicalninja   All other forms of attachment rely on the firewall...   Nov 12 2024, 06:47 PM
TargaToy   Adding to everything @technicalninja said, I als...   Nov 12 2024, 08:27 PM
nivekdodge   Installed one today with the rivets and it went pe...   Nov 12 2024, 08:53 PM
GregAmy   Installed one today with the rivets and it went p...   Nov 14 2024, 06:48 AM
technicalninja   Got me thinking... That washer is ALMOST thick en...   Nov 12 2024, 09:08 PM
HansJan   For those that are on the fence. This bushing rea...   Nov 12 2024, 11:34 PM
VaccaRabite   For those that are on the fence. This bushing re...   Nov 13 2024, 05:32 AM
HansJan   ..   Nov 12 2024, 11:36 PM
jim_hoyland   And, the screws are fed from the inside of the fir...   Nov 13 2024, 01:55 PM
NARP74   And, the screws are fed from the inside of the fi...   Nov 13 2024, 02:08 PM
jim_hoyland   And, the screws are fed from the inside of the f...   Nov 13 2024, 05:54 PM
ChrisFoley   M5 would make more sense than M6, which is oversiz...   Nov 13 2024, 06:46 PM
930cabman   M5 would make more sense than M6, which is oversi...   Nov 14 2024, 05:55 AM
gereed75   Every time this comes up I say the same thing - th...   Nov 14 2024, 08:36 AM
jim_hoyland   :agree: The mechanism resolves most of the linkag...   Nov 15 2024, 09:22 AM


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