914 structure, How are they made? Options

[Ace Le Count]

Hi all, from what I understand, the longs are double thickness? Is it the same all the way through the car, as in the top, bottom, and sides of them? Just trying to understand how these cars are built. Photos would really help. Thanks!

[Montreal914]

That is quite a wide question but let me try to explain some. The longs are doubled up in the elbow in the rear on both the inner and outer halves of the beam.

The yellow line on the left is the termination of the inside inner layer. On my car, you can see I actually cut the bottom half of it because it was compromized. As you can see, the inside inner forward lower part also includes the seatbelt point (round hole ~1"). This inside inner layer become corrugated after the elbow and goes pretty much to the upper end of the long.

The inside outer layer goes toward the front about the same at the inside inner. It does support the jack point area. Actually, if the jack point piramid is removed, you should see an indented shallow pyramid with a square which is in the ouside outer layer and a large hole (~2 1/2") would be the inside outer layer. The inside outer layer also goes up the long but ends about 2/3 in a V shape represented by the right yellow line in my picture.


You can also star here in my build thread that I am getting back into, after too many months... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...9463&st=110

You will see some picture showing how it's made. But best is probably to read through the reference build thread such as Jeff Hail, BBrock (RIP), others...

[Ace Le Count]

That is quite a wide question but let me try to explain some. The longs are doubled up in the elbow in the rear on both the inner and outer halves of the beam.

The yellow line on the left is the termination of the inside inner layer. On my car, you can see I actually cut the bottom half of it because it was compromized. As you can see, the inside inner forward lower part also includes the seatbelt point (round hole ~1"). This inside inner layer become corrugated after the elbow and goes pretty much to the upper end of the long.

The inside outer layer goes toward the front about the same at the inside inner. It does support the jack point area. Actually, if the jack point piramid is removed, you should see an indented shallow pyramid with a square which is in the ouside outer layer and a large hole (~2 1/2") would be the inside outer layer. The inside outer layer also goes up the long but ends about 2/3 in a V shape represented by the right yellow line in my picture.


You can also star here in my build thread that I am getting back into, after too many months... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...9463&st=110

You will see some picture showing how it's made. But best is probably to read through the reference build thread such as Jeff Hail, BBrock (RIP), others...

Thank you for your answer. I found this on your build thread. It is what I was looking for, but was wondering how far it goes. If the whole long is like this or not. your photo with the yellow lines helped to clarify things for me.

[didenpx]

That is quite a wide question but let me try to explain some. The longs are doubled up in the elbow in the rear on both the inner and outer halves of the beam.

The yellow line on the left is the termination of the inside inner layer. On my car, you can see I actually cut the bottom half of it because it was compromized. As you can see, the inside inner forward lower part also includes the seatbelt point (round hole ~1"). This inside inner layer become corrugated after the elbow and goes pretty much to the upper end of the long.

The inside outer layer goes toward the front about the same at the inside inner. It does support the jack point area. Actually, if the jack point piramid is removed, you should see an indented shallow pyramid with a square which is in the ouside outer layer and a large hole (~2 1/2") would be the inside outer layer. The inside outer layer also goes up the long but ends about 2/3 in a V shape represented by the right yellow line in my picture.


You can also star here in my build thread that I am getting back into, after too many months... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...9463&st=110

You will see some picture showing how it's made. But best is probably to read through the reference build thread such as Jeff Hail, BBrock (RIP), others...

Thank you for your answer. I found this on your build thread. It is what I was looking for, but was wondering how far it goes. If the whole long is like this or not. your photo with the yellow lines helped to clarify things for me.

Posting this here specifically to address whether the whole long looks like this. I don't think so. below is a photo looking into the front of the sill structure from the front wheel well of my 1975. You can make out three separate layers of metal: the bottom of the door pillar post, the inner rocker, another layer of metal (called what?), and finally the heating ducts). I'll be peeling this open in the coming week or so and will post more detailed photos once I'm properly in there.