My Last Vacuum Leak?, Throttle Body butterfly shaft -VIDEO Options

[ctc911ctc]

914-2L, '74 all original

While I was working on an injector problem, I installed a professionally rebuilt distributor and set the dwell angle right on the numbers: 48 degrees. After correcting the injector trouble I moved on to setting the timing. With the 27Deg RED mark only on the rear side of the flywheel I had to draw a mark on the _other_ side so I could get this done with the timing light, etc. Why do they think of a million other things and not think about marking the fly wheel on both sides?

I believe that I was about 20+ degrees off, after getting it correct, all of the engine missing just went away. I may be at the end of this journey with this car, drove all day, not a flinch, just worked properly. Like my 2 year old 1.7 in 1973.......ahhhh.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

HOWEVER

I then noticed that the idle was too high, around 1800. I set the idle screw and it is in all of the way - still around 1800. VACUUM LEAK!?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

On this car I have had perhaps a dozen different vacuum leaks, manifold gasket (did not seat right), Plenum (needed a complete re-weld), Manifold tube cloth connectors to the plenum (too lose, needed to be snugged a bit closer to the plenum). So, where is this leak?

I recently purchased a smoke machine and was using it incorrectly - I thought that I would see the smoke being SUCKED into the vacuum leak.......well, that did not work, then I wanted a few videos and put the smoke in the throttle body and This is what happened:

https://youtube.com/shorts/rAf5c66Zow4?si=y3TRgC0EJgBFMfmX

Apologies for the bad video, but it seems that the throttle plate shaft in the throttle body is very leaky, any ideas if this is something that could keep the idle high?
Also, note that in the video you can see that I plugged (blue plug) the vacuum valve with the heater in it. does not change the idle very much when plugged - perhaps 200 rpm reduction.

Any ideas as to the shaft leaks and how tight that part of the vacuum circuit it should be?

thank you teeners

[VaccaRabite]

That's a lot of smoke, and the video does not show where its coming out of.
Almost makes it look like its coming out of the TPS. That much smoke could be your 1800 rpm idle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BbU4JeyzMo
this is what a leaking throttle shaft looks like.

If it is your throttle plate, you need to either replace the throttle body or have it rebushed. And the replacement may be worn out as well, since all of them are OLD. Rebushing will require the services of a machinist to make bushings and fit them. The TB was not really serviceable as designed.

For my car I went with the 53mm throttle body replacement for a Vanagon and adapted it to work on my 2056. On a Djet 914 this may not be possible, but with modern EFI not only did it work, but it opened up more fueling bins at the top end of the rev range.

[ctc911ctc]

That's a lot of smoke, and the video does not show where its coming out of.
Almost makes it look like its coming out of the TPS. That much smoke could be your 1800 rpm idle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BbU4JeyzMo
this is what a leaking throttle shaft looks like.

If it is your throttle plate, you need to either replace the throttle body or have it rebushed. And the replacement may be worn out as well, since all of them are OLD. Rebushing will require the services of a machinist to make bushings and fit them. The TB was not really serviceable as designed.

For my car I went with the 53mm throttle body replacement for a Vanagon and adapted it to work on my 2056. On a Djet 914 this may not be possible, but with modern EFI not only did it work, but it opened up more fueling bins at the top end of the rev range.

Good to know someone else has traveled this path, I was thinking that I would source a cylindrical shim kit and start there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shocked[1].gif) or something equally stupid - a new throttle body is interesting.........I believe I probably killed this one when I rebuilt it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Here is the rebuild:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=337051&hl=