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914-6 finally gets it's dyno runs, The dyno raises more questions |
RogerPihlaja |
Dec 8 2024, 02:45 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 23-December 20 From: Sanford, Michigan, USA 48657 Member No.: 25,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So, I finally found a chassis dyno that was willing to run my 1970 914-6. The 3.0 liter 911 SC engine had about 1000 break-in miles on it. The attached file has 3 hp & torque curves from 3 dyno pulls superimposed. A 6300 rpm redline was observed. As you can see, the engine is still pulling hard at 6300 rpm and would produce more power if it were spun faster. I have heard 3.0 liter 911 SC engines are safe to rev to 7000 rpm; but, I wanted to get confirmation before I tried it. The engine has a Clewett Engineering engine management system with MAP fuel injection, coil at plug electronic ignition, wide range oxygen sensor closed loop, 1-5/8" ID Billy Boat headers, and a twin outlet sport muffler. The valves, springs, pistons, connecting rods, and crankshaft are stock. There is a mild cam from WEBCAM (Grind #40) in it.
I was somewhat surprised at the shape of the torque vs rpm curve. The dip in the torque curve between about 2600 - 3600 rpm reminds me of the bad old days of emission controls with carburetors. The [Air]/[Fuel] ratio would often go lean just off idle resulting in a flat spot in engine response and driveability around town. Do I need to remap the fuel flow for more fuel in that rpm region? Or, what else might be causing this dip in torque? Also, the flat shape of the torque "curve" surprised me. Isn't there supposed to be more of a peak? This isn't some "tractor" engine? By the way, the engine sounds great on the dyno! I have a video file with audio; but, it's ~31 mbytes. If someone has a way to deal with a big file on the website, please let me know and I'd be glad to share it. TooSlo86_Racing_Dyno_Chart.pdf ( 599.22k ) Number of downloads: 97 |
VaccaRabite |
Dec 13 2024, 08:51 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,616 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
A stock 3.0 only made 180HP at the crank.
I don't know the specs on yours, but if you are making 160 at the wheels, that may be an indication of a healthy stock rebuild. Assuming 15% drive train losses, your 160hp would be 184 at the crank, which is on the nose for a stock build. It does look like there is better tuning to be done. If its hot rodded - there is clearly tuning to be done. But not knowing the build, its putting out RWHP in line with a stock build. I'd be interested in seeing your fuel and spark maps. Zach |
Root_Werks |
Dec 13 2024, 12:33 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
A stock 3.0 only made 180HP at the crank. I don't know the specs on yours, but if you are making 160 at the wheels, that may be an indication of a healthy stock rebuild. Assuming 15% drive train losses, your 160hp would be 184 at the crank, which is on the nose for a stock build. It does look like there is better tuning to be done. If its hot rodded - there is clearly tuning to be done. But not knowing the build, its putting out RWHP in line with a stock build. I'd be interested in seeing your fuel and spark maps. Zach (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Was thinking the same. |
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