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First start after 25 years - problems |
spencercanon |
Dec 16 2024, 12:27 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 25-November 24 From: Bishop, California Member No.: 28,482 Region Association: Central California |
Hi all this is my first post here! I recently picked up a ’75 1.8 that was last registered in 2001! Pretty good barn find, in my opinion. It was up in the high desert of California, so no rust, great mechanicals, all the electrics work. Just flaking paint, decayed interior …and an engine that probably hasn’t run since the Clinton Administration.
The TLDR is the car has started and run for 10 seconds but now won’t start at all. A quick timeline of what I’ve done/tested: - Dropped the engine, adjusted valves (encountered something strange that I’ll ask about later) - Old starter could barely turn the engine over. Replaced it with a hi-torque. - good compression - Replaced the old broken bellows thermostat - New fuel lines, vac lines, spark plugs and wires - deleted EGR system - Fuel pump was getting power but dead - replaced it. - Coil’s good. Cap and rotor look good. Points gapped. - The L-Jet AFM had been opened and the adjustment wheel inside was so loose that it the flap wasn’t closing fully so the pump was running continuously. I rotated the wheel until there was enough tension to turn off the fuel pump. (I would have normally never touched the AFM!) Put the engine back in and the car started on the key immediately, ran for 10 seconds and died. I tried again, it started and ran for 5 seconds, then popped loudly back up the intake with enough force to blow the intake boot off the AFM. Since then, it hasn’t started. Couple notes: - after the pop, I felt like the intake pipe connector hoses were probably leaking, so I put hose clamps on them. With those clamped down and fresh vac lines everywhere, I’m pretty sure there aren’t any more leaks. - oil filler breather nipple broke so I’ve taped it off until I can get a new one. But I’m not sure how this affects the vacuum… should it be left open for now? - I don’t know the fuel pressure but it does have a new pump and lines so I’d be surprised if pressure is the problem. - tested injector ballasts and got correct ohm readings - It did start and run on its own spark and fuel, so I assume ECU and injectors are OK. - the AFM is obviously an issue … probably considerably off. But again, the car did at least start a few times. So now what? - I’d like to check/test anything I can before I start buying replacement components. - Are there baseline settings for idle speed screw, and at least a “best guess” AFM setup? - Should I just buy another AFM now, knowing this one may never be right again? - could the intake backfire have damaged something? Thanks in advance for your thoughts! Attached image(s) |
technicalninja |
Dec 17 2024, 01:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,084 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If we're all wrong and your engine is fine, you WILL have the option of merely re-assembling it.
I've got 40+ year's experience with import engine repair (Mostly Japanese stuff) and 3 times I've "put it back together" without ANY new parts other than gaskets. I held ASE "master machinist" credentials (4 recerts) until they DROPPED "machinist" as a category. The "machinist" tests were the hardest of all (They still weren't very difficult). They (The ASE) replaced the entire machinist testing with "Parts Person" and they have a "Master Parts Person" now as well. Looks like it was a "money" decision on the part of ASE. Two of those times were for budgetary reasons on NAV (negative actual value) vehicles. But once I did a VW "water boxer" in a Westfalia. This was not a budget restrained job but it WAS time sensitive. It started as a head gasket failure and once out we decided to do a simple ring job as well. The original rings were in pretty good shape just absolutely clogged with oil/water milkshake and old carbon (oil control rings). Aftermarket rings were wrong, and factory rings were 6+ WEEKS away!!! I am an anal-retentive bitch and keep EVERYTHING indexed for position (including hardware) so I was able to accurately re-install those rings in their original positions after carb dipping them and detailing. You REALLY don't want to get into a water boxer. I will refuse the next one. Massively complicated water jackets and a bunch of other weird shit. It worked out FINE! If you're careful and the parts are in good shape it IS possible to "do" an engine without hard parts... If you're doing a T4 even a single time I would suggest getting a cheap engine adaptor like this one. https://aapistons.com/products/bench-mount-...ASABEgKw1fD_BwE This will slide into a normal engine stand. There are better ones available; more arms/more better. That $50 one will work fine for limited use. I'd be carefull about holding a fully dressed T4 on it but for a cases/jugs/heads asembly it's what I use. |
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