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Ignition Issue, Wrong Distributor? |
PDXBob |
Dec 22 2024, 03:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 16-May 20 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 24,272 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I’ve been chasing a bad miss on my 1975 914 for some time and thought it might be my Pertronix Ignitor ignition unit. When I tried to replace it the new one didn’t fit. So, went back to points and condenser. I may have the wrong points and condenser, because it wouldn’t start..
After some detective work I think a previous owner installed a distributor out of a 1975-1976 VW bus! The reason I think this is true is because when I google my current Bosch Distributor number, 231 176 048 I’m getting an eBay listing for a reconditioned VW bus distributor. My question is: is there a cross reference where I could put in Bosch Distributor #231 176 048 and find what vehicles this was put in so I can get the right points and condenser? Long term, I will replace this distributor with a correct Porsche 914 one, but I want to get back on the road now and enjoy the beautiful Pacific NW winter weather (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thx, PDXBob |
porschetub |
Dec 23 2024, 04:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,756 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
I’ve been chasing a bad miss on my 1975 914 for some time and thought it might be my Pertronix Ignitor ignition unit. When I tried to replace it the new one didn’t fit. So, went back to points and condenser. I may have the wrong points and condenser, because it wouldn’t start.. After some detective work I think a previous owner installed a distributor out of a 1975-1976 VW bus! The reason I think this is true is because when I google my current Bosch Distributor number, 231 176 048 I’m getting an eBay listing for a reconditioned VW bus distributor. My question is: is there a cross reference where I could put in Bosch Distributor #231 176 048 and find what vehicles this was put in so I can get the right points and condenser? Long term, I will replace this distributor with a correct Porsche 914 one, but I want to get back on the road now and enjoy the beautiful Pacific NW winter weather (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thx, PDXBob Firstly a Pertronix unit won't create a miss ..they just work or don't , secondly this dizzy should still work enough to make it start and because this is a carb type dizzy it can work ,put the pertronix back and a start from the start . Recheck firing order and dizzy postion to #1 cylinder ,coil wire etc ,to name a few but you didn't mention the non start symptoms ,so you need to explain them ?. Your engine is a 1974 1800 bus motor so that's why you have the dizzy you have , setup right you can have great running engine with the right carbs cause you won't have the FI cam .....ask me how I know ? I have done two and they went really well but they weren't for a 914 . Cheers and have a good xmas . |
wonkipop |
Dec 23 2024, 08:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,670 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I’ve been chasing a bad miss on my 1975 914 for some time and thought it might be my Pertronix Ignitor ignition unit. When I tried to replace it the new one didn’t fit. So, went back to points and condenser. I may have the wrong points and condenser, because it wouldn’t start.. After some detective work I think a previous owner installed a distributor out of a 1975-1976 VW bus! The reason I think this is true is because when I google my current Bosch Distributor number, 231 176 048 I’m getting an eBay listing for a reconditioned VW bus distributor. My question is: is there a cross reference where I could put in Bosch Distributor #231 176 048 and find what vehicles this was put in so I can get the right points and condenser? Long term, I will replace this distributor with a correct Porsche 914 one, but I want to get back on the road now and enjoy the beautiful Pacific NW winter weather (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thx, PDXBob Firstly a Pertronix unit won't create a miss ..they just work or don't , secondly this dizzy should still work enough to make it start and because this is a carb type dizzy it can work ,put the pertronix back and a start from the start . Recheck firing order and dizzy postion to #1 cylinder ,coil wire etc ,to name a few but you didn't mention the non start symptoms ,so you need to explain them ?. Your engine is a 1974 1800 bus motor so that's why you have the dizzy you have , setup right you can have great running engine with the right carbs cause you won't have the FI cam .....ask me how I know ? I have done two and they went really well but they weren't for a 914 . Cheers and have a good xmas . no, i believe he does not have a bus engine. his engine is EC0413032. in 75 only the 914s were getting the EC engines. the 412 had ceased production. the bus 1800s are ED engines. engine number on block would begin with ED. the buses did have L jet i believe, similar to but not exactly like a EC engine. dizzy on a 74 bus 1800 is part# 021 905 205P don't have info on a 75 bus engine. original dizzy for a 75 1800 EC (914) is slightly more complex. originally the 74 USA, 74 CALIF and 75 uSA had 022 905 205AA. this was fitted with a speed limiter rotor. has a dual vacuum chamber for vac advance and retard. the dizzy for the 75 CAL had the 022 905 205 AB didn't have the speed limiter rotor. had fuel cut out switch i believe instead. difference in them was all down to the rotor. not sure how you go finding these dizzys these days. obsolete equipment. but those are the part numbers for original dizzys fitted to cars. |
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