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JimVG
post Dec 26 2024, 04:36 PM
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Has anyone here built a 914 Type 4 using the LN Engineering 2563-190 kit?
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post Dec 28 2024, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(JimVG @ Dec 28 2024, 08:24 AM) *

I have researched the flat 6 conversion options, and could not justify a reasonable rebuild cost as 6 cylinder parts/components are significantly more expensive.

Please comment on current flat 6 experience and costs.


I'm a fabricator/conversion type of guy.

I'd prefer to stay T4 on a nice 75 I own but...

The cost per HP is too high on the T4 IMO. The Porsche 6 is even worse.

These air-cooled engines are far less forgiving regarding tune.

You have to be "spot on" with a T4 or disaster is in your future.

As for conversions the Subaru 4/6 looks like the best "bang for the buck".

I've been an import car technician for 4 decades and have done one too many head gaskets on them. Actually, I've done far more than "one to many".

Subaru fixed their issues, and they are better now.
They still get "deck plates" pressed into them when they are built for big boost!

I'm just NOT a Subaru guy...

My current candidates are the water-cooled Porsche 6 (still expensive) and the GM LGX high feature V6 (Camaros and RWD Cadillacs). This motor can be had used for 2K.
335 hp and a torque curve that looks fake. The VVT and direct injection gives that more than 250lbs/ft over a 5K range.

The LGX has not been done by anyone and is a technically challenging job.
Might be stupid!
Might not fit!

One IMPORTANT thing to remember is that the Germans tend to re-use stuff that works. There are a BUNCH of VAG (Volkswagen Auto Group) engines that will bolt up to the 901 transmissions.
Even the Bentley twin turbo W12 is supposed to mount up fine... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

So, there might be a decent 4 or 6 cylinder VAG engine to use as a conversion donor.

I've found having the entire donor car for conversions is the way to go.
Buying a stripped engine from a junkyard and then tracking down the missing pieces is a PIA!

And I agree with Mepstein! Even doing it all yourself is NOT a financially sound plan.
You might get your "cost" back, but your time will be worth nothing...

You've got to love doing this stuff!
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JimVG   LN Engineering 2563 Kit   Dec 26 2024, 04:36 PM
Root_Werks   Hoping someone will chime in. Years back, really w...   Dec 26 2024, 07:06 PM
zig-n-zag   I bought a 2563-190 engine kit from Jake Raby back...   Dec 27 2024, 02:48 AM
JimVG   I bought a 2563-190 engine kit from Jake Raby bac...   Dec 27 2024, 07:33 AM
DC_neun_vierzehn   I bought a 2563-190 engine kit from Jake Raby bac...   Dec 27 2024, 08:51 AM
JOEPROPER   If you go with carbs, I have big Dells that are ne...   Dec 27 2024, 08:57 AM
r_towle   I have a 2.6 Carbs were required at the time I bui...   Dec 27 2024, 09:03 AM
r_towle   No matter what you choose, measure everything to e...   Dec 27 2024, 10:10 AM
JimVG   No matter what you choose, measure everything to ...   Dec 27 2024, 04:59 PM
zig-n-zag   I had Jake do the engine prep which was wrist pin ...   Dec 27 2024, 02:45 PM
JimVG   I had Jake do the engine prep which was wrist pin...   Dec 27 2024, 05:05 PM
technicalninja   I had Jake do the engine prep which was wrist pin...   Dec 27 2024, 02:54 PM
930cabman   How are these large modifications long term? Bett...   Dec 27 2024, 03:16 PM
zig-n-zag   I wonder if you folks remember in the Paddock the ...   Dec 27 2024, 04:35 PM
zig-n-zag   Good friend of mine built a 2.7 6 for his ‘77 91...   Dec 27 2024, 04:57 PM
Chris914n6   Subaru makes a 2.5L that is significantly cheaper,...   Dec 27 2024, 05:24 PM
930cabman   Subaru makes a 2.5L that is significantly cheaper...   Dec 27 2024, 05:28 PM
Superhawk996   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='3183491' date='Dec...   Dec 27 2024, 10:01 PM
zig-n-zag   The camshaft in the engine kit is the 163/86b. Wh...   Dec 27 2024, 05:39 PM
technicalninja   The camshaft in the engine kit is the 163/86b. W...   Dec 27 2024, 06:23 PM
zig-n-zag   In the long term, how long will a Porsche 6 last c...   Dec 27 2024, 06:30 PM
JimVG   In the long term, how long will a Porsche 6 last ...   Dec 28 2024, 08:21 AM
914werke   105 x 74 ? :o Is this dual plug? Thats a helluva...   Dec 27 2024, 07:13 PM
zig-n-zag   The valve lash increased so to find out why I remo...   Dec 27 2024, 07:54 PM
zig-n-zag   I have single plug heads. Going to a dual plug wo...   Dec 27 2024, 08:15 PM
zig-n-zag   The crank is a DPR 78.4mm welded counter weighted....   Dec 27 2024, 08:37 PM
technicalninja   @zig-n-zag Sounds like an ass kicking set up...   Dec 27 2024, 09:06 PM
914werke   The crank is a DPR 78.4mm. The bore is 102mm :...   Dec 28 2024, 12:28 AM
JimVG   I have researched the flat 6 conversion options, a...   Dec 28 2024, 08:24 AM
mepstein   I have researched the flat 6 conversion options, ...   Dec 28 2024, 12:25 PM
burton73   I don't know what to tell you on this 2562 kit...   Dec 28 2024, 12:30 PM
technicalninja   I have researched the flat 6 conversion options, ...   Dec 28 2024, 01:04 PM
mepstein   The cost of a Porsche six can be hard to justify b...   Dec 28 2024, 03:43 PM
zig-n-zag   The engine kit from Jake was over 11k. The CFR ex...   Dec 28 2024, 09:42 PM


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