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914incali
post Apr 2 2024, 11:07 AM
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Picked up a 76 out of texas that had been converted to single carb that just doesn't run very well. I decided to convert back to original FI, essentially everything is gone and I am working on understanding the system. I guess my first question is where does the fuel pump draw power from? there is a single black wire underneath the fuel tank that has no power to it but all the relays have been removed and Im waiting on those from pelican
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post Jan 6 2025, 04:44 PM
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I would really like to post a photo or video but lets say I'm not a fan of computers and as I've read on this Forum many old farts like me run in to difficulty with this task hence the reason why I haven't asked any questions through my 3 year journey of getting this car back on the road again . I will make another attempt to do this as Ive read many times "this post is useless without photos". I've read many of the comments on this subject and links so I believe my pics are too high of resolution and I'm not sure about the URL to link my photos. I made the mistake of being talked into a new Apple computer that I struggle with so please bear with me as I attempt to get back to this thread with some photos. The fact that if I cover that hole on the inside bore of the throttle body the car will die and the suction on my finger is pretty strong is what I should figure out. I am a little unsure about covering the hole and possibly sucking tape or silicon into my cylinders. There is one more observation that I have seen a few comments on that I followed but never heard a definitive answer to. My butterfly plate has a hole in it with a screw and nut that looks original because the bottom threads of the screw are peened to prevent removal . I'm not really sure about that as Ive seen some with and with out holes but never the screw in the hole . Anyway I know you all would like a photo but I have company all this week and may not get back onto this until next week . Thank you all for your comments and help. If I've learned one thing from this group it's stick with it and the community will help you solve it . I think I have a really nice survivor car to share that I look forward to getting everyones opinions on oneday .
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QUOTE(Ron914 @ Jan 6 2025, 02:44 PM) *

I would really like to post a photo or video but lets say I'm not a fan of computers and as I've read on this Forum many old farts like me run in to difficulty with this task hence the reason why I haven't asked any questions through my 3 year journey of getting this car back on the road again . I will make another attempt to do this as Ive read many times "this post is useless without photos". I've read many of the comments on this subject and links so I believe my pics are too high of resolution and I'm not sure about the URL to link my photos. I made the mistake of being talked into a new Apple computer that I struggle with so please bear with me as I attempt to get back to this thread with some photos. The fact that if I cover that hole on the inside bore of the throttle body the car will die and the suction on my finger is pretty strong is what I should figure out. I am a little unsure about covering the hole and possibly sucking tape or silicon into my cylinders. There is one more observation that I have seen a few comments on that I followed but never heard a definitive answer to. My butterfly plate has a hole in it with a screw and nut that looks original because the bottom threads of the screw are peened to prevent removal . I'm not really sure about that as Ive seen some with and with out holes but never the screw in the hole . Anyway I know you all would like a photo but I have company all this week and may not get back onto this until next week . Thank you all for your comments and help. If I've learned one thing from this group it's stick with it and the community will help you solve it . I think I have a really nice survivor car to share that I look forward to getting everyones opinions on oneday .
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Sending this to Rick as well.


You are very close to where a few of us old farts live. Let me try to help you with the picture size problem. You phone is taking the pictures at a high resolution and the picture are very large as far as, if you where to open them up in a photo editing program they may be 30 inches wide. I save mine in Photoshop and make the size 15 inches wide. One way to get a smaller Image is to take the images and with your phone and then send all of them to your e-mail and it gives you a choice of sizes. In other words, if there's 5 pictures. You want them to end up being under one 1 MB total and there will be a place to click on. That's the way it is in my Apple phone. Not sure how it works on non-Apple phones but it must.

One more time: I just take pictures and then go to my photos and pick the ones I want to send to my email as a group of a few and it gives me a choice of size for the few.

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QUOTE(burton73 @ Jan 6 2025, 07:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Ron914 @ Jan 6 2025, 02:44 PM) *

I would really like to post a photo or video but lets say I'm not a fan of computers and as I've read on this Forum many old farts like me run in to difficulty with this task hence the reason why I haven't asked any questions through my 3 year journey of getting this car back on the road again . I will make another attempt to do this as Ive read many times "this post is useless without photos". I've read many of the comments on this subject and links so I believe my pics are too high of resolution and I'm not sure about the URL to link my photos. I made the mistake of being talked into a new Apple computer that I struggle with so please bear with me as I attempt to get back to this thread with some photos. The fact that if I cover that hole on the inside bore of the throttle body the car will die and the suction on my finger is pretty strong is what I should figure out. I am a little unsure about covering the hole and possibly sucking tape or silicon into my cylinders. There is one more observation that I have seen a few comments on that I followed but never heard a definitive answer to. My butterfly plate has a hole in it with a screw and nut that looks original because the bottom threads of the screw are peened to prevent removal . I'm not really sure about that as Ive seen some with and with out holes but never the screw in the hole . Anyway I know you all would like a photo but I have company all this week and may not get back onto this until next week . Thank you all for your comments and help. If I've learned one thing from this group it's stick with it and the community will help you solve it . I think I have a really nice survivor car to share that I look forward to getting everyones opinions on oneday .
Thank you
Ron



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Sending this to Rick as well.


You are very close to where a few of us old farts live. Let me try to help you with the picture size problem. You phone is taking the pictures at a high resolution and the picture are very large as far as, if you where to open them up in a photo editing program they may be 30 inches wide. I save mine in Photoshop and make the size 15 inches wide. One way to get a smaller Image is to take the images and with your phone and then send all of them to your e-mail and it gives you a choice of sizes. In other words, if there's 5 pictures. You want them to end up being under one 1 MB total and there will be a place to click on. That's the way it is in my Apple phone. Not sure how it works on non-Apple phones but it must.

One more time: I just take pictures and then go to my photos and pick the ones I want to send to my email as a group of a few and it gives me a choice of size for the few.

Best Bob B

Thanks Bob ,
That is good advice but now I think my issue is in creating a URL and a place for all those photos I want to share .
Ron
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914incali   1976 fuel injection questions   Apr 2 2024, 11:07 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   power is from the relay board in the engine compar...   Apr 2 2024, 11:18 AM
914incali   I have a complete injection system and am waiting ...   Apr 2 2024, 11:34 AM
rjames   Black and red= power, brown=ground to chassis.   Apr 2 2024, 11:54 AM
914incali   Black and red= power, brown=ground to chassis. ...   Apr 2 2024, 12:12 PM
JeffBowlsby   Single brown ground cable for the fuel pump is se...   Apr 2 2024, 01:15 PM
914incali   yes its out of a 73 2.0, im not to worried about s...   Apr 2 2024, 01:31 PM
fiacra   yes its out of a 73 2.0, im not to worried about ...   Apr 2 2024, 10:02 PM
L-Jet914   yes its out of a 73 2.0, im not to worried about ...   Oct 10 2024, 11:33 PM
burton73   The problem is you are in California, and you need...   Apr 2 2024, 01:39 PM
Karl R   Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976...   Apr 3 2024, 07:04 PM
JeffBowlsby   Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 197...   Apr 3 2024, 07:23 PM
wonkipop   Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 19...   Apr 4 2024, 06:10 PM
Ron914   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3137731' date='Ap...   Oct 9 2024, 12:42 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3137731' date='A...   Oct 9 2024, 04:15 PM
L-Jet914   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3137731' date='A...   Oct 10 2024, 11:17 PM
r_towle   76 is djet. I happen to have one here if you need...   Apr 3 2024, 08:23 PM
Karl R   I guess I'm starting to slip. I thought they s...   Apr 4 2024, 04:39 PM
r_towle   I guess I'm starting to slip. I thought they ...   Apr 4 2024, 05:31 PM
JeffBowlsby   For smog purposes CA-only model 1975-76 914s also ...   Oct 9 2024, 05:15 PM
wonkipop   @Ron914 here is what CARB would have on file for...   Oct 9 2024, 08:06 PM
Ron914   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Oct 10 2024, 04:58 PM
wonkipop   well i can only speak as an australian down here...   Oct 10 2024, 06:57 PM
fiacra   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3172034' date='Oct 9...   Oct 10 2024, 11:14 PM
Ron914   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3172034' date='Oct ...   Oct 10 2024, 11:47 PM
L-Jet914   [quote name='fiacra' post='3172200' date='Oct 11 ...   Oct 10 2024, 11:57 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='fiacra' post='3172200' date='Oct 11 ...   Oct 11 2024, 12:41 AM
JeffBowlsby   Did paperwork from the previous smog tests come wi...   Oct 10 2024, 05:28 PM
wonkipop   on the question of how the previous owner got the ...   Oct 10 2024, 07:07 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby you always throw up interesting inf...   Oct 10 2024, 07:22 PM
JeffBowlsby   Yes! It’s in the Service &Training manu...   Oct 10 2024, 07:48 PM
JeffBowlsby   I have at least one 75 CA 2.0L with the SL box on ...   Oct 10 2024, 07:58 PM
wonkipop   I have at least one 75 CA 2.0L with the SL box on...   Oct 10 2024, 09:44 PM
JeffBowlsby   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3172179' date='Oc...   Oct 10 2024, 10:15 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3172179' date='O...   Oct 11 2024, 12:38 AM
Ron914   When I bought the car I had to go to the DMV and p...   Oct 10 2024, 10:47 PM
L-Jet914   If you have a plate number you can see the pass/fa...   Oct 10 2024, 11:03 PM
L-Jet914   Everything required for a California certified 197...   Oct 10 2024, 11:28 PM
wonkipop   Everything required for a California certified 19...   Oct 11 2024, 12:39 AM
930cabman   Glad I don't live in Cali   Oct 11 2024, 05:04 AM
fiacra   Glad I don't live in Cali It ain't bad ...   Oct 11 2024, 03:29 PM
emerygt350   Absolutely agree. Drives me crazy living in NY tr...   Oct 11 2024, 06:35 PM
davep   So Ron, what is the current situation?   Jan 5 2025, 03:30 PM
fiacra   @914incali [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Jan 5 2025, 03:57 PM
Ron914   Thanks for checking in . I am still working on my ...   Jan 6 2025, 12:28 PM
Ron914   I believe it was @ emerygt350 that asked @slapsho...   Jan 6 2025, 12:35 PM
JeffBowlsby   Post a photo of that oblong hole so we clearly und...   Jan 6 2025, 12:48 PM
rjames   Post a photo of that oblong hole so we clearly un...   Jan 6 2025, 02:02 PM
emerygt350   If the idle adjust screw no longer closes off the ...   Jan 6 2025, 02:54 PM
Ron914   I would really like to post a photo or video but l...   Jan 6 2025, 04:44 PM
burton73   I would really like to post a photo or video but ...   Jan 6 2025, 06:19 PM
Ron914   [quote name='Ron914' post='3185256' date='Jan 6 2...   Jan 6 2025, 06:37 PM
burton73   Sending this to Rick as well. You are very close...   Jan 6 2025, 09:28 PM
emerygt350   You are all good with that butterfly. That is how...   Jan 6 2025, 06:08 PM
Ron914   You are all good with that butterfly. That is ho...   Jan 6 2025, 07:04 PM
technicalninja   Thanks Bob!   Jan 7 2025, 09:20 AM
rjames   The butterfly should have two screws that hold t...   Jan 7 2025, 11:05 AM
emerygt350   The butterfly should have two screws that hold ...   Jan 7 2025, 12:47 PM
Ron914   The butterfly should have two screws that hold...   Jan 7 2025, 02:34 PM
emerygt350   At the current state I would leave it in the hole,...   Jan 7 2025, 07:56 PM


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