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SirAndy |
Jan 21 2025, 10:06 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,035 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
914world is showing its age (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
The recent outage was not due to some cyber attack or malicious plotting from the darkest depths of the interwebs. It was simply due to the forum software being overwhelmed by the amount of data stored here combined with the amount of traffic we're receiving. Fact is, the software we're running on is more than 20 years old, written at a time when the internet was a much different place. It was never meant to run for this long or handle the amount of data we have accumulated. So what are our options? - Keep going until everything crashes and burns into a pile. - Start over fresh with a new server with new forum software. We'd be losing everything we have. - Try to fix some of the issues by re-writing parts of the software, reworking the database and changing the way uploaded images are stored. Maybe even update the server itself while we're in there. While the last choice seems the obvious one, the problem is that i do have a day-job that needs my attention and my time is limited. It would also mean i'd probably have to shut down the site for a longer period of time, maybe a week or two, and maybe more than once. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
NARP74 |
Jan 22 2025, 12:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,318 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Maybe a few more admins so Andy does not bear all the time and responsibility. He has probably done more than we know to "keep the dump running."
My last favorite site died this way, single point of failure, he left to run a company, just keep the site going, it crashed and we lost everything. They decided to move on and the void was filled many ways, never the same. If this was a corporate eval I was on it would fail. Anyone still using Win 95, 98 or Millennium, Server 2000 to run a successful business. While this is not a business, it could be treated as one. For many good reasons, seems like we have kicked the can down the road and done just enough to keep it running. Again, NOT a dig at Andy. The time has come to pay up though before it is too late. Most corps I have worked with or at adopted an N-1 architecture for critical infrastructure. Not bleeding edge, let others work out the bugs, no more than a stable version behind. Then create a migration plan and get it done every few years. Maybe start a committee, some zoom calls, get into the weeds, come up with some plans. Go public with it and get to work funding it and doing the work. Times, hardware, software, applications, services have all moved on, Moore's Law anyone? Not transistors and it has slowed down lately but we are still behind. |
930cabman |
Jan 22 2025, 12:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,874 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Maybe a few more admins so Andy does not bear all the time and responsibility. He has probably done more than we know to "keep the dump running." My last favorite site died this way, single point of failure, he left to run a company, just keep the site going, it crashed and we lost everything. They decided to move on and the void was filled many ways, never the same. If this was a corporate eval I was on it would fail. Anyone still using Win 95, 98 or Millennium, Server 2000 to run a successful business. While this is not a business, it could be treated as one. For many good reasons, seems like we have kicked the can down the road and done just enough to keep it running. Again, NOT a dig at Andy. The time has come to pay up though before it is too late. Most corps I have worked with or at adopted an N-1 architecture for critical infrastructure. Not bleeding edge, let others work out the bugs, no more than a stable version behind. Then create a migration plan and get it done every few years. Maybe start a committee, some zoom calls, get into the weeds, come up with some plans. Go public with it and get to work funding it and doing the work. Times, hardware, software, applications, services have all moved on, Moore's Law anyone? Not transistors and it has slowed down lately but we are still behind. all very good points, include myself to where ever I can assist |
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