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| Mr.Vman |
 Jan 31 2025, 06:01 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 1-October 24 From: Sierra Vista, AZ. Member No.: 28,388 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
New to the type 4 and 914 world, Noticed that Empi has two cylinder heads available for the type four. has anyone used them yet? If so, how do they compare against the heads that are available? Cooling? Flowing? Quality? Are the Empi heads worth buying compared to what's out there now? In the type 1 world, Cima/Mahle cylinders seem to be what to use with good success. Are Cima/Mahle cylinders available for the type 4? If so, from whom or where? And while I consider Empi heads and Mahle cylinders, what about new type four cases? Are there new type four cases available? Or soon to be available? I know with the VW type 1 new cases solve many problems. Thank you for the time and information, Steve V,
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| technicalninja |
Feb 1 2025, 09:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,377 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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Are new Mahle cylinders available in Europe?
I would have expected Mahle to move on and build new stuff as almost all of the OEM suppliers have done. My source for Mahle cylinders is OLD ones. I agree the Mahle is the best when it comes to steel jugs. Jake Raby mentioned new German built flywheels that were SO SOFT they went into the trash pile. Sometimes the ONLY good stuff is the OLD stuff... I also suspect there is only ONE foundry that is making the heads today. Everyone's heads are coming from the same place... |
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| JamesM |
Feb 1 2025, 10:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,041 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
QUOTE(technicalninja @ Feb 1 2025, 08:13 PM)  Everyone's heads are coming from the same place... The EMPI 2.0 heads are a different casting than previously available aftermarket 2.0 castings that everyone was reworking. While I haven't done any metallurgy testing on them they visibly appear to be a nicer part. Manley Valves, EMPI installs all the valve hardware themselves. This was handy as when we (PMB) asked for a big valve version so we wouldn't have to rework them for our 2.3s they kindly obliged. Haven't seen the big valve version yet, getting a couple pairs in next week. |
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Mr.Vman Empi heads and Cima/Mahle cylinders Jan 31 2025, 06:01 PM
914Sixer Here is where a lot of people shop. Pretty much e... Feb 1 2025, 09:10 AM Mr.Vman Thank you for sharing AA parts, no doubt another s... Feb 1 2025, 03:46 PM Dave_Darling I haven't heard of any source for new Type IV ... Feb 1 2025, 08:59 PM
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Everyone's heads are coming from the same p... Feb 4 2025, 12:20 PM technicalninja
Everyone's heads are coming from the same p... Feb 1 2025, 11:36 PM Craigers17 I've been hanging out a bit on Jake Raby's... Feb 2 2025, 06:03 AM JamesM
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Under... Feb 2 2025, 05:36 PM technicalninja Thanks, @Rob@EMPI
It's good to have multipl... Feb 4 2025, 03:36 PM |
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