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SVG223
post Feb 19 2025, 08:47 PM
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195/65/15 Stock Fuchs. Turning radius restricted. Just parking, and U-turns. Would a 1/2" wheel spacer help?


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post Feb 20 2025, 07:30 PM
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The good news, your fenders look fine.


However, what the heck is going on with your suspension? The top rubber is completely whacked on both sides.
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Do you have the car jacked up in the air on both sides with the suspension hanging freely?
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post Feb 20 2025, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 20 2025, 08:30 PM) *

The good news, your fenders look fine.


However, what the heck is going on with your suspension? The top rubber is completely whacked on both sides.
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Do you have the car jacked up in the air on both sides with the suspension hanging freely?
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Yes, I do. I have the inspection plate off checking a small fuel leak after reinstalling the tank.
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post Feb 20 2025, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(SVG223 @ Feb 20 2025, 06:00 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 20 2025, 08:30 PM) *

The good news, your fenders look fine.
However, what the heck is going on with your suspension? The top rubber is completely whacked on both sides.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Do you have the car jacked up in the air on both sides with the suspension hanging freely?
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Yes, I do. I have the inspection plate off checking a small fuel leak after reinstalling the tank.

So, stupid question then, is it rubbing with the car in the air or is it rubbing when it's sitting on the ground?
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post Feb 20 2025, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 20 2025, 09:05 PM) *

QUOTE(SVG223 @ Feb 20 2025, 06:00 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 20 2025, 08:30 PM) *

The good news, your fenders look fine.
However, what the heck is going on with your suspension? The top rubber is completely whacked on both sides.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Do you have the car jacked up in the air on both sides with the suspension hanging freely?
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Yes, I do. I have the inspection plate off checking a small fuel leak after reinstalling the tank.

So, stupid question then, is it rubbing with the car in the air or is it rubbing when it's sitting on the ground?
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I see an area in the fender well where the tire has been scraping towards the cabin. Which is the opposite side from where it is touching in the photos while suspended in air. I was thinking it had something to do with the Caster angle.
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post Feb 20 2025, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(SVG223 @ Feb 20 2025, 06:28 PM) *
I see an area in the fender well where the tire has been scraping towards the cabin. Which is the opposite side from where it is touching in the photos while suspended in air. I was thinking it had something to do with the Caster angle.

From the picture you posted of the top plate, your caster looks fine, it's not excessive.

Do you know for certain that the rubbing evidence you see in the wheel well is fresh?
It's not uncommon to see some rubbing towards the rear end of the front wheel well (in a sharp turn at speed when the outside wheel is unloaded), but you should never see any rubbing towards the front while the car is on the ground.
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 20 2025, 09:34 PM) *

QUOTE(SVG223 @ Feb 20 2025, 06:28 PM) *
I see an area in the fender well where the tire has been scraping towards the cabin. Which is the opposite side from where it is touching in the photos while suspended in air. I was thinking it had something to do with the Caster angle.

From the picture you posted of the top plate, your caster looks fine, it's not excessive.

Do you know for certain that the rubbing evidence you see in the wheel well is fresh?
It's not uncommon to see some rubbing towards the rear end of the front wheel well (in a sharp turn at speed when the outside wheel is unloaded), but you should never see any rubbing towards the front while the car is on the ground.
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Here is a picture of the rub mark. It is down to the metal and I don't see any rust film.

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SVG223   Front tires rubbing inside in tight turns   Feb 19 2025, 08:47 PM
bkrantz   What are your camber and caster settings?   Feb 19 2025, 08:54 PM
SVG223   What are your camber and caster settings? Got no...   Feb 19 2025, 09:00 PM
mgp4591   I'd think a 195/65 sounds a little tall. Stock...   Feb 19 2025, 09:24 PM
SVG223   I'd think a 195/65 sounds a little tall. Stoc...   Feb 19 2025, 09:55 PM
mgp4591   I'd think a 195/65 sounds a little tall. Sto...   Feb 19 2025, 10:22 PM
mgp4591   I'd think a 195/65 sounds a little tall. Sto...   Feb 19 2025, 10:22 PM
gonzo54   I have the same size tires with no interference/ru...   Feb 19 2025, 09:25 PM
SVG223   I have the same size tires with no interference/r...   Feb 19 2025, 09:42 PM
mgp4591   Oops, double post,   Feb 19 2025, 09:25 PM
SVG223   After considering the questions posed by @bkrantz...   Feb 19 2025, 10:07 PM
mepstein   I’ve ran 195x65x15 with 2.0 Fuchs on quite a few...   Feb 20 2025, 04:08 AM
burton73   Are you saying in a parking situation super tight ...   Feb 20 2025, 02:32 PM
SVG223   Are you saying in a parking situation super tight...   Feb 20 2025, 04:28 PM
burton73   Best Bob B Just parking, and U-turns. I don...   Feb 21 2025, 02:27 PM
SirAndy   That doesn't look right. Does your car show ...   Feb 20 2025, 03:45 PM
SVG223   That doesn't look right. Does your car show...   Feb 20 2025, 04:32 PM
SirAndy   That doesn't look right. Does your car sho...   Feb 20 2025, 04:42 PM
SVG223   [quote name='SVG223' post='3192787' date='Feb 20 ...   Feb 20 2025, 05:06 PM
SVG223   Strut tower for vague alignment reference. It look...   Feb 20 2025, 04:39 PM
SirAndy   The good news, your fenders look fine. However, ...   Feb 20 2025, 07:30 PM
SVG223   The good news, your fenders look fine. However,...   Feb 20 2025, 08:00 PM
SirAndy   The good news, your fenders look fine. However, ...   Feb 20 2025, 08:05 PM
SVG223   [quote name='SVG223' post='3192807' date='Feb 20 ...   Feb 20 2025, 08:28 PM
SirAndy   I see an area in the fender well where the tire ha...   Feb 20 2025, 08:34 PM
SVG223   I see an area in the fender well where the tire h...   Feb 20 2025, 09:02 PM
Front yard mechanic   I think I have a solution :idea: if you want to d...   Feb 20 2025, 09:26 PM
SVG223   I think I have a solution :idea: if you want to ...   Feb 20 2025, 09:46 PM
Dave_Darling   This is common with 195-width or wider tires. Mos...   Feb 21 2025, 03:57 PM
SVG223   This is common with 195-width or wider tires. Mo...   Feb 21 2025, 10:48 PM
Superhawk996   This is common with 195-width or wider tires. ...   Feb 22 2025, 12:26 PM
SVG223   Now I'm thinking about having my alignment cha...   Feb 21 2025, 11:37 PM
Superhawk996   I'm curious about the setup others have with...   Feb 22 2025, 12:00 PM
SVG223   I'm curious about the setup others have wit...   Feb 22 2025, 12:23 PM
Geezer914   It looks like your upper camber plate bushings are...   Feb 22 2025, 08:04 AM
Superhawk996   It looks like your upper camber plate bushings ar...   Feb 22 2025, 12:18 PM
SVG223   It looks like your upper camber plate bushings a...   Feb 22 2025, 03:00 PM
SVG223   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3193103' date='F...   Feb 22 2025, 05:01 PM
Superhawk996   Here is a picture with the nut off. I'm goin...   Feb 22 2025, 07:02 PM
L-Jet914   [quote name='SVG223' post='3193128' date='Feb 22 ...   Feb 22 2025, 09:31 PM
Superhawk996   You mentioned 185s. What aspect ratio of 185s wou...   Feb 23 2025, 12:20 AM
rhodyguy   Avoiding turning the steering wheel to ‘full loc...   Feb 22 2025, 03:32 PM
SVG223   I just ordered (2) 10mm spacers and 20 chromed 45m...   Feb 23 2025, 12:20 AM


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