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Alden |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Lower Providence Twp. (Eagleville), PA Member No.: 7,161 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
Ran well before storing in a dry shed.
Evaluated the fuel system and installed new: fuel tank fuel level sending unit fuel tank screen fuel filter Cohline 2240 & Gates Barricade fuel hose rebuilt Bosch 3 port fuel pump (4) Standard Motor Products JF67 Injectors Verified the stainless-steel tunnel and engine fuel lines are clear. Applied 12 volts directly to the fuel pump to prime system. Fuel is circulating (can hear the gurgling of the return in the tank). Ignition in the ON position the fuel pump primes (can hear running for 1-2 seconds). Ignition in the START position fuel pump runs (verified with voltmeter, can't hear running due to engine cranking). Ignition in the ON position apply throttle can hear fuel injectors click. Engine will run with starting fluid. Could it be fuel pressure? Fuel pressure regulator go bad from non-use or E10 fuel? (E10 fuel destroyed my Cohline 2134 fuel hose and Bosch fuel pump) Don't know if this could be a factor, sometimes in the START position, nothing, have to return to ON position and retry. Failing ignition switch? What else should I look for? Found a video from May 2017, started after sitting for 5 years. ![]() ![]() |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Lower Providence Twp. (Eagleville), PA Member No.: 7,161 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
When the key is turned to the accessory "ON" position (no engine cranking) the fuel pump comes on for 1-2 seconds. I apply the throttle and hear the fuel injectors click. I then unplug the fuel injection harness connectors from the injectors and plug in the noid light and apply the throttle and the niod light lights up.
When the key is turned to the "START" position (engine cranking), fuel pressure rises to 26 psi, engine doesn't attempt to start, just spins. I then unplug the fuel injection harness connectors from the injectors and plug in the noid light, key is turned to the "START" position (engine cranking) and noid light does not light up. |
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,872 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
When the key is turned to the "START" position (engine cranking), fuel pressure rises to 26 psi, engine doesn't attempt to start, just spins. I then unplug the fuel injection harness connectors from the injectors and plug in the noid light, key is turned to the "START" position (engine cranking) and noid light does not light up. The above is incongruent with "engine will run with starting fluid." Not sure what is going on here, could be something simple like a bad connection somewhere. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,908 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() ![]() |
When the key is turned to the "START" position (engine cranking), fuel pressure rises to 26 psi, engine doesn't attempt to start, just spins. I then unplug the fuel injection harness connectors from the injectors and plug in the noid light, key is turned to the "START" position (engine cranking) and noid light does not light up. The above is incongruent with "engine will run with starting fluid." Not sure what is going on here, could be something simple like a bad connection somewhere. Not necessarily. If fuel injectors aren’t firing while cranking, it won’t start but would cough / “run” on starting fluid. The weird thing is OP says the injectors fire when moving throttle / TPS. Question 1: if you have fuel pressure present at the injectors, and use the TPS to fire the injectors (with fuel pressure present), that dumps gasoline into the intake and valves. If you then attempt to crank and start - does it cough or try to run at least momentarily? Question 2: where are you measuring fuel pressure at on the diagram below? ![]() |
Alden |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Lower Providence Twp. (Eagleville), PA Member No.: 7,161 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
When the key is turned to the "START" position (engine cranking), fuel pressure rises to 26 psi, engine doesn't attempt to start, just spins. I then unplug the fuel injection harness connectors from the injectors and plug in the noid light, key is turned to the "START" position (engine cranking) and noid light does not light up. The above is incongruent with "engine will run with starting fluid." Not sure what is going on here, could be something simple like a bad connection somewhere. Not necessarily. If fuel injectors aren’t firing while cranking, it won’t start but would cough / “run” on starting fluid. The weird thing is OP says the injectors fire when moving throttle / TPS. Question 1: if you have fuel pressure present at the injectors, and use the TPS to fire the injectors (with fuel pressure present), that dumps gasoline into the intake and valves. If you then attempt to crank and start - does it cough or try to run at least momentarily? Question 2: where are you measuring fuel pressure at on the diagram below? ![]() Verified trigger points connection at the distributor. I supplied the fuel pump with a standalone (independent from the car) 12 volt connection, fuel pump constantly running at 26 psi. Turned key to the accessory "ON" position (no engine cranking), applied throttle and heard fuel injectors clicking. Quickly unconnected standalone 12 volt supply to the fuel pump and connected the fuel pump as normal. Turned key to the "START" position (engine cranking) and the car ran momentarily like with starting fluid. Additional attempts to start, engine just spinning. When engine cranking verified fuel pressure is 26 psi. Fuel pressure gauge attached with a "T" just before the driver's side fuel rail at fuel injector 2. |
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