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> Will not start after a 13-year hibernation, 1973 2.0 D-Jet
Alden
post Mar 26 2025, 07:33 PM
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Ran well before storing in a dry shed.

Evaluated the fuel system and installed new:
fuel tank
fuel level sending unit
fuel tank screen
fuel filter
Cohline 2240 & Gates Barricade fuel hose
rebuilt Bosch 3 port fuel pump
(4) Standard Motor Products JF67 Injectors

Verified the stainless-steel tunnel and engine fuel lines are clear.

Applied 12 volts directly to the fuel pump to prime system. Fuel is circulating (can hear the gurgling of the return in the tank).

Ignition in the ON position the fuel pump primes (can hear running for 1-2 seconds).
Ignition in the START position fuel pump runs (verified with voltmeter, can't hear running due to engine cranking).

Ignition in the ON position apply throttle can hear fuel injectors click.

Engine will run with starting fluid.

Could it be fuel pressure? Fuel pressure regulator go bad from non-use or E10 fuel?
(E10 fuel destroyed my Cohline 2134 fuel hose and Bosch fuel pump)

Don't know if this could be a factor, sometimes in the START position, nothing, have to return to ON position and retry. Failing ignition switch?

What else should I look for?

Found a video from May 2017, started after sitting for 5 years.Attached File  Clip3.mov ( 2.42mb ) Number of downloads: 21
Attached File  Clip3.mov ( 2.42mb ) Number of downloads: 21
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Superhawk996
post Apr 2 2025, 07:09 PM
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Taking everything you said from post 27 as fact.

It seems there is something not right where the trigger point signal isn’t working to trigger while cranking .

Here’s a couple things to check:

1) Trigger points themselves - there is a common ground inside the trigger points that if it goes bad you’ll have no signal to either set of injectors. Pic below is what I found on a set I had. No bueno. Have you actually removed - inspected what you have to make sure you don’t have something like this going on?

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2) Another possibility is the trigger points signal isn’t making it to the ECU. Bad wiring is a very real possibility.

3) ECU has gone south - not likely but can’t rule out at this stage

4) engine is cranking over too slowly? There is a minimum RPM the ECU needs to see from the trigger points - can’t remember off the top of my head but it’s something like 100 rpm’s. If you are trying to crank with a weak battery you could be cranking too slowly. Again not as likely but need you to rule this out. Is your battery topped up and spinning the engine with authority?

Items #1 & #2 are easily checked and verified with a DMM.
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Taking everything you said from post 27 as fact.

It seems there is something not right where the trigger point signal isn’t working to trigger while cranking .

Here’s a couple things to check:

1) Trigger points themselves - there is a common ground inside the trigger points that if it goes bad you’ll have no signal to either set of injectors. Pic below is what I found on a set I had. No bueno. Have you actually removed - inspected what you have to make sure you don’t have something like this going on?

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2) Another possibility is the trigger points signal isn’t making it to the ECU. Bad wiring is a very real possibility.

3) ECU has gone south - not likely but can’t rule out at this stage

4) engine is cranking over too slowly? There is a minimum RPM the ECU needs to see from the trigger points - can’t remember off the top of my head but it’s something like 100 rpm’s. If you are trying to crank with a weak battery you could be cranking too slowly. Again not as likely but need you to rule this out. Is your battery topped up and spinning the engine with authority?

Items #1 & #2 are easily checked and verified with a DMM.


For item #1, I should be able to show continuity from center pin to chassis ground?

For item #2, I have to disconnect the 25 pole connector at the ECU and run a continuity check to from the 25 pole connector to left and right pins of the distributor?
https://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/DJetParts.htm#setups

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Item #3, I have a spare ECU (from another troubleshooting session years ago, the issue ended up that my Python rebuilt fuel injector failed in the open position)

Item #4, Strong battery (group 75) from my C5 Corvette, put screw in posts on the side terminals and made it work. I've put a charge on it a few times.
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Alden   Will not start after a 13-year hibernation   Mar 26 2025, 07:33 PM
davep   Yes, it could certainly be the ignition switch, th...   Mar 26 2025, 07:54 PM
Dlee6205   Engine will run with starting fluid. Could it b...   Mar 26 2025, 08:41 PM
914outlaw   “ Ignition in the ON position apply throttle can...   Mar 26 2025, 09:08 PM
emerygt350   verify fuel pressure. Try not to mess with anythi...   Mar 27 2025, 05:13 AM
rgalla9146   Are your supply and return lines reversed ? The...   Mar 27 2025, 05:27 AM
Olympic 914   I see you are out in the Philly area. Maybe som...   Mar 27 2025, 06:51 AM
TheCabinetmaker   I agree with Rgalla. Typical symptoms of reversed ...   Mar 27 2025, 10:10 AM
rick 918-S   I agree with Rgalla. Typical symptoms of reversed...   Mar 27 2025, 10:49 AM
VaccaRabite   Confirm fuel pressure with a gauge at the fuel pre...   Mar 27 2025, 10:20 AM
Alden   Verified fuel lines are routed correctly and fuel ...   Apr 1 2025, 07:23 PM
JeffBowlsby   Please quickly check before doing anything else. ...   Apr 1 2025, 07:36 PM
Alden   Please quickly check before doing anything else. ...   Apr 1 2025, 07:54 PM
JeffBowlsby   Those are good signs. The injector grounds seem t...   Apr 1 2025, 09:02 PM
Alden   Those are good signs. The injector grounds seem ...   Apr 1 2025, 09:37 PM
Alden   Those are good signs. The injector grounds seem ...   Apr 1 2025, 10:18 PM
JeffBowlsby   The injectors click but it is fuel starved. Fue...   Apr 1 2025, 10:26 PM
Alden   The injectors click but it is fuel starved. Fu...   Apr 1 2025, 10:47 PM
Alden   The injectors click but it is fuel starved. Fu...   Apr 2 2025, 03:15 PM
JeffBowlsby   Not sure I am understanding certain phrases being ...   Apr 1 2025, 11:16 PM
Alden   When the key is turned to the accessory "ON...   Apr 1 2025, 11:55 PM
JeffBowlsby   When the key is turned to the "START" ...   Apr 2 2025, 09:34 AM
Superhawk996   When the key is turned to the "START...   Apr 2 2025, 09:53 AM
Alden   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3199331' date='Ap...   Apr 2 2025, 03:17 PM
emerygt350   The clicking is the result of the TPS. That is go...   Apr 2 2025, 05:38 AM
Superhawk996   Does the seat belt lock out stop the fuel or the...   Apr 2 2025, 07:11 AM
emerygt350   Does the seat belt lock out stop the fuel or th...   Apr 2 2025, 01:09 PM
emerygt350   Check the resistance on the mps while you are at i...   Apr 2 2025, 03:54 PM
Alden   Check the resistance on the mps while you are at ...   Apr 2 2025, 06:59 PM
Superhawk996   Taking everything you said from post 27 as fact. ...   Apr 2 2025, 07:09 PM
Alden   Taking everything you said from post 27 as fact. ...   Apr 2 2025, 08:01 PM
JeffBowlsby   Circuit 12 is common, not ground. The TP cycles b...   Apr 2 2025, 08:56 PM
Superhawk996   Circuit 12 is common, not ground. The TP cycles ...   Apr 2 2025, 10:47 PM


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