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> Idle adjustment question, Idles high or slowly stalls
BillC
post Apr 18 2025, 05:10 PM
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I have an idle adjustment question for all you D-Jet gurus:

I can adjust the idle air screw on the throttle body so the car idles at 1600 RPM, and it will happily idle at 1600 all day long. If I turn in the screw just a little bit, like 1/4 turn, the car will slowly drop idle speed down slower and slower until it stalls. I can blip the throttle to keep it running, but it just wants to slow down and stall. This is all when the car is fully warmed up.

How do I get the car to idle steady around 1000-1200 RPM? 1600 is just too high.

Car is a '73 2.0 with factory D-Jet. I installed new Standard Products FJ67 injectors, and the fuel pressure is 29 psi. There are no leaks in the intake side, and the idle adjustment screw is about 2 turns out (so there's plenty of adjustment available in both directions). The MPS hasn't been messed with, and the ECU looks like the correct unit. All new vacuum lines, fuel lines, pump & filter, and fresh gas. New @JeffBowlsby engine and alternator wiring harnesses.

Known issues: it has the wrong CHT sensor (it's the one that's commonly available) and I think the TPS board has worn traces. I finally found the right CHT and ballast resistor, and I also have a 914Rubber replacement TPS board, and I will install both of them when I get a chance. However, I don't think either of those should keep it from idling at a reasonable RPM.
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BillC   Idle adjustment question   Apr 18 2025, 05:10 PM
Sea Rooster   Following....I have the same issue.   Apr 18 2025, 05:17 PM
JeffBowlsby   Im no guru, but the air screw is doing what its su...   Apr 18 2025, 05:44 PM
BillC   Im no guru, but the air screw is doing what its s...   Apr 18 2025, 06:14 PM
Ron914   Im no guru, but the air screw is doing what its ...   Apr 18 2025, 07:10 PM
Superhawk996   Known issues: it has the wrong CHT sensor (it...   Apr 18 2025, 07:17 PM
emerygt350   That's what I was thinking too. Although it s...   Apr 18 2025, 08:34 PM
Superhawk996   That's what I was thinking too. Although it ...   Apr 18 2025, 09:02 PM
Superhawk996   I guess I am also assuming the vehicle has a 73’...   Apr 18 2025, 09:43 PM
emerygt350   Yeah, we need verification it's all 037. The ...   Apr 19 2025, 03:12 PM
BillC   So, I installed the 017 CHT and 270 ohm ballast re...   Apr 19 2025, 03:58 PM
Olympic 914   Part of your problem may be that the tuning on the...   Apr 19 2025, 06:29 PM
emerygt350   Yes, and that is exactly what I would do. And als...   Apr 19 2025, 04:50 PM
Robarabian   Test your MPS.. this sounds MPS related to me... a...   Apr 19 2025, 05:33 PM
BillC   And ... it appears to be solved! :Qarl: :ch...   Apr 20 2025, 09:48 AM
JeffBowlsby   Shazzam! Amazing what the right parts will do...   Apr 20 2025, 09:59 AM
emerygt350   That is great. And inexpensive!   Apr 20 2025, 10:51 AM
BillC   Aarrrrrgggh!!!! It is not fixed. ...   Apr 20 2025, 04:20 PM
Superhawk996   The previous owner had the engine rebuilt a year...   Apr 20 2025, 09:31 PM
BillC   Thinking about it, do I have the distributor set c...   Apr 20 2025, 04:20 PM
emerygt350   Absolutely change that to the rear facing port.   Apr 20 2025, 08:07 PM
BillC   Update: I heard back from Ed Madak at 123Ignition,...   Apr 21 2025, 06:25 AM
emerygt350   You want it on the advance setting. If you have i...   Apr 20 2025, 08:18 PM
rjames   Does either of your MPSs hold vacuum?   Apr 21 2025, 12:26 AM
emerygt350   And do put a vacuum gauge or mighty vac on the ple...   Apr 21 2025, 06:22 AM
brant   I had the same idle down problem a few years back....   Apr 21 2025, 10:19 AM
BillC   So, more frustration this afternoon, but a small s...   Apr 21 2025, 04:45 PM
Superhawk996   I did hook up a vacuum gauge. When running at ...   Apr 21 2025, 05:47 PM
BillC   [quote name='BillC' post='3202140' date='Apr 21 2...   Apr 21 2025, 07:10 PM
Superhawk996   However, the throttle does stick just a little bi...   Apr 21 2025, 05:48 PM
emerygt350   I agree with your assessment. You could measure t...   Apr 21 2025, 08:16 PM
BillC   How did you adjust them last time? Crusty method...   Apr 22 2025, 05:44 AM
emerygt350   I am a fan of the crusty method. No chance of a mi...   Apr 22 2025, 06:19 AM
Superhawk996   Pull plugs - betting they are black given how litt...   Apr 22 2025, 10:34 AM
BillC   Pull plugs - betting they are black given how lit...   Apr 22 2025, 03:28 PM
emerygt350   You can just use your mighty vac as a vacuum gauge   Apr 22 2025, 05:44 PM
BillC   I finally heard back from the shop that built the ...   Apr 25 2025, 11:53 AM
JamesM   Now I just need to figure out which way to go. ...   Apr 26 2025, 12:11 AM
Superhawk996   Assuming you are correct about the cam - micro/meg...   Apr 25 2025, 12:55 PM
emerygt350   I agree, we are all going to have to go that way e...   Apr 25 2025, 12:59 PM
Superhawk996   I agree, we are all going to have to go that way ...   Apr 25 2025, 02:03 PM
BillC   <sigh> The mystery continues.... :headbang...   Apr 26 2025, 05:02 PM
Superhawk996   FWIW - Djet (and general plenum vacuum) isn’t g...   Apr 26 2025, 10:18 PM
BillC   I spent some time playing with the car this aftern...   Apr 27 2025, 04:53 PM
emerygt350   Did you check the timing when it was at 1600? If ...   Apr 27 2025, 06:54 PM
BillC   Did you check the timing when it was at 1600? If...   Apr 28 2025, 08:00 AM
Superhawk996   I did a quick check of the valve adjustment whi...   Apr 28 2025, 09:04 AM
BillC   Don’t take this the wrong way but we recently h...   Apr 28 2025, 11:03 AM
Superhawk996   Edit: I wonder if I might have a valve seat com...   Apr 28 2025, 11:29 AM
emerygt350   Ahh, forgot you had the 123. You are not using th...   Apr 28 2025, 02:59 PM


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