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> Pic Request : Rotor while engine is well timed (27deg BTDC)
Literati914
post Apr 21 2025, 12:36 PM
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I'm hoping someone can snap a picture of the distributor with it's cap off - to show where the Rotor is pointing while the engine is actually timed to 27 degrees (the normal factory timing over all the 914 typeIV engines, I believe).

No adjustments would be needed on your end of course - BUT to make the picture usable it would require the photographer to rotate his/her engine to the initial timing "0" degree mark on the compression stroke with the engine off. (your car stays timed at 27 of course)

Why do I need this? - because I'd like to get the rotor in the ball-park before my assistant (w/ very limited experience) tries to maintain 3500rpm with my somewhat sticky throttle (to address soon).

So, may be kind of a hassle but I'd think it could also help others trying to time their engines for the first time too. We know what the rotor looks like at TDC, but there are no pictures available like what I'm asking for (I looked but couldn't find). I'd appreciate it if someone could help please!

ps - if posting the pic is an issue, I can provide my phone# so you can text it to me and I'll post it. LMK
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post Apr 22 2025, 06:14 AM
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People are trying to help you because what you are asking is 1) unusual, 2) unhelpful, and 3) time consuming.

IF you are at TDC. And IF your timing gear is not 180 off...
Then your rotor will point to about Cyl 1. That's it. That's the starting position. No picture is going to get you more close then that. That's the rough in, and your car will be fine tuned with a timing light.

If your issue is you've done that and the car won't run, or is backfiring through the intake, that's an indication that something is wrong, and that will not be solved by what you are asking for.

Getting mad at us for trying to help you get there won't help you either.

Good luck.
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post Apr 22 2025, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Apr 22 2025, 06:14 AM) *

People are trying to help you because what you are asking is 1) unusual, 2) unhelpful, and 3) time consuming.

IF you are at TDC. And IF your timing gear is not 180 off...
Then your rotor will point to about Cyl 1. That's it. That's the starting position. No picture is going to get you more close then that. That's the rough in, and your car will be fine tuned with a timing light.

If your issue is you've done that and the car won't run, or is backfiring through the intake, that's an indication that something is wrong, and that will not be solved by what you are asking for.

Getting mad at us for trying to help you get there won't help you either.

Good luck.
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Any photo is impacted by camera angle
This idea of getting close to start is not really useful nor what so ever accurate
It’s oh so easy to run the throttle and light as one person
Do it with 2. Not hard either. But a picture will not improve the outcome
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Literati914   Pic Request : Rotor while engine is well timed (27deg BTDC)   Apr 21 2025, 12:36 PM
brant   the problem is the gear under the distributor can ...   Apr 21 2025, 02:51 PM
JamesM   the problem is the gear under the distributor can...   Apr 24 2025, 10:17 PM
fixer34   the problem is the gear under the distributor ca...   Apr 25 2025, 04:21 PM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='JamesM' post='3202634' date='Apr 24 ...   Apr 25 2025, 11:10 PM
Literati914   Maybe it's an anomaly but my dist. has a small...   Apr 21 2025, 03:16 PM
brant   put the motor on TDC number 1 verify with valves.....   Apr 21 2025, 03:40 PM
Literati914   put the motor on TDC number 1 verify with valves....   Apr 21 2025, 03:42 PM
Jack Standz   What Brandt said. Make 1000% certain you have y...   Apr 21 2025, 07:00 PM
Jack Standz   If you want to know what 27 degrees looks like, re...   Apr 21 2025, 07:34 PM
Jack Standz   Here's a 13.5 degrees angle. So compare it to ...   Apr 21 2025, 07:38 PM
Literati914   @Jack Standz and [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com...   Apr 21 2025, 07:44 PM
Literati914   ..But, really how does this help time a motor (ot...   Apr 21 2025, 08:08 PM
emerygt350   I would send you one but I am away from my car for...   Apr 21 2025, 08:09 PM
fixer34   I have a -6, so can't help with pictures, but ...   Apr 21 2025, 08:40 PM
Jack Standz   ..But, really how does this help time a motor (o...   Apr 21 2025, 09:06 PM
Literati914   I have a -6, so can't help with pictures, but...   Apr 21 2025, 09:12 PM
sixnotfour   static time,lock it,, twist rotor to make mechanic...   Apr 21 2025, 09:30 PM
Literati914   static time,lock it,, twist rotor to make mechani...   Apr 21 2025, 09:46 PM
sixnotfour   static time,lock it,, twist rotor to make mechan...   Apr 21 2025, 09:58 PM
rjames   I’ve read this thread three times and I still do...   Apr 21 2025, 10:14 PM
Literati914   would give you an idea of the mechanical advance ...   Apr 21 2025, 10:17 PM
Literati914   Because as I’ve mentioned for the 3rd time now...   Apr 21 2025, 10:31 PM
Artfrombama   Because as I’ve mentioned for the 3rd time no...   Apr 21 2025, 11:58 PM
VaccaRabite   People are trying to help you because what you are...   Apr 22 2025, 06:14 AM
brant   People are trying to help you because what you ar...   Apr 22 2025, 06:35 AM
Literati914   I think you want to set total advance. Due to man...   Apr 22 2025, 07:33 AM
Literati914   People are trying to help you because what you ar...   Apr 22 2025, 07:42 AM
Literati914   ..At this point I'd rather just wrap this thre...   Apr 22 2025, 07:58 AM
fixer34   ..At this point I'd rather just wrap this thr...   Apr 22 2025, 04:06 PM
emerygt350   Something I would be interested in is where it sit...   Apr 22 2025, 10:49 AM
ClayPerrine   As a starting point.. time it to 8 degrees BTDC at...   Apr 22 2025, 02:00 PM
Literati914   As a starting point.. time it to 8 degrees BTDC a...   Apr 22 2025, 02:30 PM
Osnabruck914   I feel for the OP. As the old saying goes - ...   Apr 25 2025, 05:08 PM
technicalninja   Actually, that is somewhat incorrect. Yes, the en...   Apr 26 2025, 07:59 AM
Literati914   .….However, on a VW Type IV distributor, the #3...   Apr 26 2025, 11:17 AM
Superhawk996   .….However, on a VW Type IV distributor, the #...   Apr 26 2025, 11:28 AM
Literati914   .. With all due respect - your drive gear doesnâ€...   Apr 26 2025, 11:39 AM
Superhawk996   More photos of correctly installed dizzy drive T...   Apr 26 2025, 12:33 PM
technicalninja   :agree: Be careful when you pull the drive out. ...   Apr 26 2025, 12:47 PM
Artfrombama   Keep in mind at #1 TDC, could be on exhaust stroke...   Apr 26 2025, 12:57 PM
Superhawk996   Keep in mind at #1 TDC, could be on exhaust strok...   Apr 26 2025, 01:33 PM
Literati914   .. The more I look at yours I think the dizzy dri...   Apr 26 2025, 01:02 PM
Literati914   .. The more I look at yours I think the dizzy dr...   Apr 26 2025, 01:13 PM
Superhawk996   Hmm, ok looking closer I see what you mean about ...   Apr 26 2025, 01:28 PM
Literati914   Ok checked everything.. im on compression stroke. ...   Apr 26 2025, 02:20 PM
Superhawk996   This looks like about 12deg., right? :agree: ...   Apr 26 2025, 08:45 PM


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