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> How many MPSs are "popped"?
McMark
post Mar 26 2005, 03:48 AM
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I pretty much assume that every MPS I see is either broken or on its way out (diaphragm damage). I'm I right or wrong?
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post Mar 26 2005, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (jwalters @ Mar 26 2005, 08:26 AM)
I would think a comparison of operating specs would reveal quite a few that could / would work.

sorry, but if you did, you would be wrong...

we have BTDT through this topic a zillion times. D-Jet is *nothing* like a modern system.

it's based on an analog trick. the trigger points make the square wave that drives the injectors. the MPS is a variable-reluctance transformer. it uses vacuum sensing to move an iron core to swallow up more or less of that initial square wave signal.

i suppose you *could* build a device that could simulate the characteristics of a variable-reluctance transducer, but it would be hard, and it would not give you the desired effect of working with off the shelf components.

D-Jet was a clever analog computing engineering trick for the mid''60's when it was designed. but we've learned a bunch of stuff in 40 years, and we'd never approach that problem that way doing it now.

when you approach it with what's available now, you wind up with a MegaSquirt...
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McMark   How many MPSs are "popped"?   Mar 26 2005, 03:48 AM
redshift   I think the next couple years will be unreal for e...   Mar 26 2005, 03:58 AM
davep   I have about 12 units, one of which will hold some...   Mar 26 2005, 06:05 AM
jwalters   Speaking of MPS's-- Are there not suitable lat...   Mar 26 2005, 07:11 AM
redshift   If there was, and we knew about it, we'd have ...   Mar 26 2005, 07:20 AM
jwalters   Yea, I kinda figured that, but I also kinda figure...   Mar 26 2005, 07:26 AM
redshift   How about a virtual MPS, that fakes the signal, dr...   Mar 26 2005, 07:28 AM
jwalters   That is easily done my making a pot and hooking it...   Mar 26 2005, 07:36 AM
redshift   it sees three conditions, right? 1. Idle 2. POT ...   Mar 26 2005, 08:00 AM
Jeff Bowlsby     Mar 26 2005, 08:14 AM
ArtechnikA   ...   Mar 26 2005, 08:17 AM
scott thacher   somebody out there has plains or a how to make a n...   Mar 26 2005, 08:27 AM
Bleyseng   "You said your Janbo tester actually emulates the ...   Mar 26 2005, 08:39 AM
scott thacher   okay who has a known bad mps, only known bad part ...   Mar 26 2005, 08:47 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Thanks Geoff, I thought it was too good to be true...   Mar 26 2005, 08:53 AM
Demick   Here's the problem - money. Tooling to make a...   Mar 26 2005, 09:31 AM
Bleyseng   I have seen two MPS's with a SS diaphram, does...   Mar 26 2005, 10:27 AM
lapuwali   I went down this path partway with Brad Anders. M...   Mar 26 2005, 10:37 AM


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