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> Megasquirt in a 72 1.7L 914 ???, Need advice
rotary914
post Mar 29 2005, 02:25 PM
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I'm new to this list........ So Hello

Well - the title says it all.
I will probably keep my 1.7L for at least another year and I want to replace the 33 year old F.I. with something new.
I'll probably get new injectors too.

Has anyone converted to a Megasquirt on a 1.7L??
Any significant improvements over a properly running stock F.I. system??
Any negatives??
Easy to tune (I have a LM-1 Wideband meter)??
Any particular megasquirt model??

Any recommendations??

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post Apr 6 2005, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 6 2005, 02:07 PM)
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I noticed he was able to do this without a TPS. This is part of new code in the megasquirt, right? Can we do that for the 914 and not need a TPS?


I believe for most applications the TPS is really only needed for fuel enrichment during acceleration (it should be a little quicker than MAP based) and for decel, so the motor will get less fuel on coasting...the MAP will do the rest...

I believe the very latest code (the "extras" code) has a mode that allows you to only use the MAP sensor, even for accel enrichment and fuel cutoff. Decel generally results in a MAP value below idle MAP, so you just set a threshold below the idle value for fuel cutoff. Accel enrichment can be done using a MAP rate of change as easily as a TPS rate of change. There probably is a better response rate with a throttle sensor, but ditching the TPS seems to be a win to me. Using a TPS makes things a touch more reliable, as the MAP thresholds are going to change from car to car (even engine to engine). Set the fuel cutoff too close to idle and you'll find the car stalling at lights regularly. Set it too low and you'll get popping on the overrun because the cutoff never happens.

The set price is pretty good compared swapping to a complete aftermarket system. It's admittedly not a big market, either. If he maps the ECU to work with your CIS engine (2.4, 2.7, 3.0, and mods), then it's a much fairer price.

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rotary914   Megasquirt in a 72 1.7L 914 ???   Mar 29 2005, 02:25 PM
fiid   I had MS running on a 1.7. It was relatively easy...   Mar 29 2005, 02:30 PM
Mueller   i did it a few years ago when the megasquirt (MS) ...   Mar 29 2005, 02:33 PM
lapuwali   Do a search here on Megasquirt. Yes, it's bee...   Mar 29 2005, 02:41 PM
Mueller     Mar 29 2005, 02:48 PM
anthony   Have any of you megasquirt guys followed this thre...   Apr 6 2005, 01:15 PM
lapuwali   I'd be happier about paying that price if he o...   Apr 6 2005, 02:42 PM
anthony   He might appreciate your comments regarding the co...   Apr 6 2005, 03:54 PM
Mueller  
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lapuwali     Apr 6 2005, 04:27 PM
anthony   On page 5 of the Pelican thread he posted a graph...   Apr 6 2005, 06:03 PM
anthony   Anyway, I've been thinking of building an engi...   Apr 6 2005, 06:06 PM
greg.treadway   I am designing a new fuel injection kit for my car...   Apr 6 2005, 06:12 PM
anthony   What is MSRP going to be?   Apr 6 2005, 06:20 PM
greg.treadway   I wish I could say. Since I'm still making it ...   Apr 6 2005, 06:26 PM
Mueller   The EFI wars are going to be interesting....Steve ...   Apr 6 2005, 06:57 PM
lapuwali     Apr 6 2005, 07:07 PM
greg.treadway   Competition can only be a good thing.   Apr 6 2005, 07:09 PM
Qarl   Well.... if you follow Greg's link and go to w...   Apr 6 2005, 09:21 PM
Mueller     Apr 6 2005, 09:48 PM
Qarl   I thought Jake was using the KitCarlton EFI?   Apr 6 2005, 09:49 PM
Mueller     Apr 6 2005, 09:57 PM


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